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Post by Robert Drake » Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:55 pm

Okay, go easy on me, I'm new here and I'm really just curious.

Mel Gibson is in hot water for saying Jews are responsible for starting all the modern wars (not those exact words). Okay, well, I don't think you can blame all Jews for starting all the wars, but what role has zionism played in wars of the 20th century and at present? I think it plays the major role with the neocon objectives, but what about the First World War and the Second World war? Respectable sources would be useful.

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Post by Ry » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:19 am

it's not "THE JEWS" but a Few Jewish Bankers did put together WWI. They adopted Judaism (they are not even Hebrew they are white people mixed with mongoles) to avoid the Catholic outlawing of usury. They position themselves behind the viel of religion in order to avoid criticism.

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Post by NoFear » Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:27 am

it's more than few jewish bankers Ry.

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Post by Iconoclast » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:11 am

I imagine that this entire thing is fabricated.

We have only the testimony of a Jewish cop who pulled over Gibson, and Gibson started ranting about Jews then and there. Which makes it seem as if Gibson knew the cop was Jewish. Despite it being dark out, the cop wearing a hat that hid is curly-wurly hair, and Gibson being drunk, Gibson could tell the cop was Jewish through his facial features. Right.

Maybe that's why they won't release the audio.
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Post by fimart » Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:18 am

Iconoclast wrote:I imagine that this entire thing is fabricated.

We have only the testimony of a Jewish cop who pulled over Gibson, and Gibson started ranting about Jews then and there. Which makes it seem as if Gibson knew the cop was Jewish. Despite it being dark out, the cop wearing a hat that hid is curly-wurly hair, and Gibson being drunk, Gibson could tell the cop was Jewish through his facial features. Right.

Maybe that's why they won't release the audio.
Could be but why would Gibson admit to it then?

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Post by HORATIO » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:50 am

Gibbo knows his film about jesus caused controversy and was disliked by jews so he was really just making a crude joke when he said "Are you a jew?."

He should have come out against the war instead just saying stuff like that.

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Post by Ry » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:27 pm

Gibson should not have back peddled. He should have just said he meant Zionsts instead of Jews.
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Post by Gyps » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:43 pm

Ry wrote:Gibson should not have back peddled. He should have just said he meant Zionsts instead of Jews.
exactly. when you're drunk it's hard to say zionist. :roll:
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Post by fimart » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:39 pm

Ry wrote:Gibson should not have back peddled. He should have just said he meant Zionsts instead of Jews.
That is what I thought! But admittedly it would be a bit hard to get your politics right when you are off your face!

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A joke at a useful time

Post by MonkeyZerg » Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:04 pm

I'd like to share Xymphora's latest take on this whole Mel Gibson thing. As for me, if Gibson has an opinion on Jewish/Zionist role in current wars, he should talk about it when sober and stand by his words. That's if he doesn't mind getting his career crucified. Get it? Crucified... ok, I'm trying to be funny, anyways, Xym's take:

from http://xymphora.blogspot.com/

A joke at a useful time

Rick Salutin, the only sane Globe and Mail columnist left, on Mel Gibson and the Zionist misuse of anti-Semitism:

“At last we know what Mel Gibson is anti-Semitic about. He doesn't abhor Jews because they killed Christ, though his film clearly depicted them that way. It's because they have a veto (he thinks) on his Hollywood projects.

And now, due to his drunken outburst on a California highway, more Lebanese villagers will be bombed and uprooted. I mean this symbolically, in the sense that generations of Arabs have had to pay for two millenniums of Christian anti-Semitism in Europe, once ‘the West’ decided it owed a debt to Jews for the Holocaust.

And I mean it literally: He reinforced a sense that an ancient, ineradicable hatred of Jews lurks behind the current strife. One Hollywood agent said: ‘At a time of escalating tensions in the world, the entertainment industry cannot idly stand by and allow Mel Gibson to get away with such tragically inflammatory statements.’ Notice the link.

The history of anti-Semitism, crowned by the Holocaust, is so odious that a mere mention tends to override other factors, and even facts. For instance, this week, Marcus Gee, in The Globe and Mail, condemned ‘the refusal of the Arab world to accept a Jewish state in its midst.’ Yet, at a 2002 summit, the Arab world offered a comprehensive peace with Israel if it returned to its 1967 borders. He writes as if that never happened. It's as if a horror of anti-Semitism can eclipse reality itself, and Gibson-like outbursts help keep the fear active.”

It now looks like Mel wasn’t in on the conspiracy, but there was a conspiracy. Mel wasn’t really drunk, but is a notorious practical joker. He obviously isn’t an anti-Semite (Jewish publicist, Jewish bodyguard, and works with Jewish people every day of the year), but probably picked up on the fact that an arresting officer was Jewish, and decided to have a little fun. He never expected that his little joke would be used for political purposes, but was blind-sided by the need for the American Zionist spin machine to come up with the traditional explanation for why Israel has to commit wholesale war crimes and crimes against humanity. Thus, Mel’s joke was publicized (normally, the publicity wouldn’t go beyond the charge and an ugly mug shot; btw, doesn’t Mel take an atypically handsome mug shot, especially as compared with the norm?), and the full court press by the usual suspects, replete with over-the-top calls for a Hollywood ban of Mel, was misused in order to provide some sorely-needed protection for the Zionist murdering state. The message to Hollywood stars is to lay off the jokes about Jews while Israel is involved in a massive civilian slaughter (you can joke during the usual slow-motion slaughter of Palestinians).

Watch for Mel to make a self-deprecating joke at the next Oscars, and receive a big laugh from the 85 per cent Jewish audience (the other 15 per cent being seat-fillers), proving that his joke served its purpose and everybody wants to continue to make money with the guy.

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