Why Zionism? - response to AJ fans

[MonkeyZerg]

On Zionism?

by Majid Zakaria

Am seeing a debate raging on this comments board. I think I'll throw in my two cents. My profile pretty much shows my position on things. I tend to agree with what Leakey is getting at. Now I appreciate the work AJ does, his sites and videos have been very informative for me over the years. But Leakey is correct in saying that he doesn't cover the Zionist faction as in depth compared to thier influence, and brushes them off as small players while concentrating on Occult secret societies. Now this may be for many reasons, from as benign as that he is convinced that he has the truth, or we could assume that he is bought off, intimidated, sloppy, or actively in disinfo.

I won't claim to know what AJ is about, but being so prominent in the truth movement and yet failing to mention really basic VERIFIABLE facts is a reason I haven't been relying on him for news lately.

I've seen people below say that people who point out Zionism discredit the truth movement because that would be 'bigotry', promote 'holocaust denial', etc. This shows an ignorance of what Zionism is. Zionism is NOT Judaism, nor are all Jews Zionists, nor are all Zionists Jews. What AJ fails to talk about is that the occultic people he goes after are hard-core Zionists (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc), and he fails to show that their policies have been formulated and pushed by hardcore Zionists (Clean Break and PNAC writers including Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Wurmser, etc). So already by just looking up names of players, we see the Zionist nature of the key movers and players. Then look at the names, affiliations, loyalties of the top media, corporate, and industry owners, and again you'll see a preponderance of Zionists, both Jewish and Christian, who donate to Zionist causes, are members of Zionist organisations, and sometimes are even dual Israeli citizens. And then look into government policy makers, lobbyists (Abramoff, AIPAC being notorious as THE most powerful, etc), and again... all Zionist.

So let's say what a Zionist is, so when you check all the above for yourself, you'll realize what I'm talking about. Zionism rests on several main pillars: the aim of creating the country of Israel (done), populating it with Jews (done), protecting it and make it a world power (being done via US proxy), once it's powerful enough, rebuild the temple of Solomon (plans/material prepared) and prepare the world for the coming/return of the Messiah to rule.

Now you may say that AJ doesn't talk about the Zionists being the main players because of supposed lack of evidence, I don't buy that. I already mentioned above that just by looking at who occupies the influential positions in government/media/corporatism, etc, you'll find a preponderance of Zionists. But AJ prefers to talk about the occult and secret societies, instead of just looking at the mainstream to see who does what. Even in that field he fails to 'connect the dots'.

Now it's definitely true that all sorts of cults, pagan, Satanic, majical, Masonic, etc exist. There are ancient mysteries and myths and symbols, from countries such as Egypt or Babylon who used to dabble in this stuff. But HOW did this info get to our modern cults/secret societies, etc? It's no secret that the main vessel preserving these traditions have primarily been a faction of Jewish rabbis, who learned these secrets in Egypt and Babylon, and their knowledge then entering books such as the Qabbalah and Zohar. While the pagan nations were subsequently swept up into Christianity and then Islam, all these traditions were destroyed. But Judaism being comprised of insular societies that were tolerated by Christians and Muslims (because they were Abrahamic), survived all the world changes while the pagans didn't. The knowledge that some of the Rabbis carried, and some of which was incorporated into Jewish texts, were thus preserved over the centuries.

It is no secret that most modern secret societies and cults, such as the Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, Rosicrucians, etc, got their knowledge/rituals/symbolism from Jewish sources that preserved this knowledge. Some major examples are like when the Templars returned with new knowledge from the Crusades, or the many Europeans who learned majic and occultism from Rabbinical 'miracle workers', who used to perform in royal courts and practice Qabbalah, etc. What makes the occult Zionist is the Jewish concepts mixed in with the occult. Primarily the dream to reinhabit the Holy Land, rebuild the Temple, and prepare for the Messiah.

So what we see is that while most secret societies work as fraternities and 'I-help-you-you-help-me' clubs at lower levels (plus their intriguing/compromising rituals that can be used for degradation and blackmail), the top levels have a common theme of promoting world dominance, a NWO, magic and mind control, and building the HQ of this One World Government in Jerusalem. The repopulation of Israel and rebuilding the Temple are big goals of these secret societies, from an occultic/spiritual sense, just as it is a major goal of overt Zionist organisations and individuals, in a geopolitical and/or religious sense.

So where's the proof for my claims? Well, just look at the players' names, actions, stated motivations, etc. It's all pretty obvious. Look up John Dee and the other Kabbalists who revived the occult in Europe. Rothschild was the son of a Rabbi, started the banking dynasty, and now his family and agents dominate world banking, and through that control governments via debt, industry, media etc. All these powerful behind-the-scenes players are avid Zionists. Rothschild payed Weishaupt (Kabbalist rabbi) to start the Illuminati, which pretty much worked to undermine world governments/institutions, and rebuild Israel where the world can be governed from once there are no more nations/religions to get in the way. Rothschilds stated that they hoped the Messiah would be a Rothschild, and they were the main people who funded the building and populating of Israel (filling it with their occult symbols). They and other Zionists manipulated two world wars to first make it available (destroy Ottamans, Balfour) and then populate it (Holocaust atrocities, allowed Jews to die rather than escape to places other than Israel). Also for example, the roots of Communism are heavily Zionist, just look at the writings of Moses Hess (Marx's 'Communist Rabbi'), who wrote the first drafts of the Manifesto, as well as works on the need to bring Jews to Palestine, while promoting communism to non Jews. Marx himself was the son of Rabbis who built on Hess' work and used Talmudic concepts to come up with Communism. Then you find that the Communist movement was dominated by Judaics throughout history, and funded/supported by Zionist capitalists. (look into the relations of Schiff, Lenin, Trotsky (Bronstein), etc). I could go on, but if AJ pulls his head out of his self-made 'NWO death cult' hole, and just NAMES the key players, and the REASONS they do things, in a great proportion of times it goes back to Zionism, both in the mainstream and in little known history, both overtly and covertly.

Sheesh people, just LOOK! The Mossad connection to 911 is one of the main keys in explaining those events, and yet they are underplayed. Jewish/Zionist ownership of Hollywood, the press, and main news outlets STARES US IN THE FACE! Yet we ignore it and its effects. Just LOOK! It's all there, names, organizations, motivations, etc. And off coarse stating facts IS NOT BIGOTRY OR RACISM. The anti-Semitism slur is the only defence they have because they can't argue the facts. But reasons to expose Zionism should be patriotic, not racist. Again, only a small faction of Jews are Zionist, and many Jews are themselves victims of Zionist policies, and MANY non-Jews are also Zionist and should be exposed for that. Christian Zionists are being misled and sold the idea that supporting Israel right-or-wrong would somehow bless them and return the messiah.

Wow, this has gone on like an essay. Lemme wrap up now before I get any book ideas. The reason we go after Zionists is because that's what the names, organizations, actions, motivations, etc lead to. Of course there are many non Zionists and even anti Zionists working for power, money, dominance, or even are helping set up globalization, etc, for their own interests, but that doesn't change the greatest proportion of the most influential being Zionists, working for Zionist goals, whether it harms the US or benefits the US (and to a lower degree, other countries). For interesting scholarly work, it's good to expose secret cults and their rituals, but that doesn't change the fact that the members of these cults promote Zionism in public, as well as other things such as moral degradation, wealth accumulation, etc.

Cheers all. I think that's all I'm putting into this debate. So again, I don't expect everyone to always agree, but I invite you to also look into this. Keep up the good struggle everyone,
All the best,
-MZ

[NoFear]

excellent post majid!!!

[hopeforjustice]

I love your post, Majid. Do you know a good website to go to and get the nitty gritty details about zionists and wwI & II? All the sites I've been to only covered general topics . I'm waiting forl Ry's book to come in, but I don't know if it covers this, I can't wait until I read it.

[HereticOfBabylon]

I agree wholeheartedly with this post. However, I've noticed a pattern within the arguments of anti-zionists (and I have been guilty of this, myself.)

Please don't take this as an anti-semitism accusation, but we say it's not the jews, and then we use jews, specific individuals, as arguments against zionism. More often than not, it's simply to identify and pinpoint Zionism within the world community.

However, I find that this is where the accusations of anti-semitism originate.

In order to make the point that Zionism is the problem, one has to focus on the things which will drive the point home. Suggesting that judaism (or even the fact that most zionists individually are Jews) is anything negative effectively invalidates that point. The jews are only a shield being used by the zionists to support their case. Speaking negatively, or providing negative implications about anything Jewish is only going to support the zionist case, because it automatically labels you an anti- semite.

Majid, this is not aimed at you, by the way. It's just something I've noticed in general that I've got to point out.

[Ry]

Well you know what my thoughts are since you are here.
If you want more ammo do a search on this site of Alex Jones and read what I have said about that crowd.

[MonkeyZerg]

Thanks for the encouraging comments guys. Ry, my original post was accompanied by an old expose of yours of Alex Jones.

I would like to add this post that I put on another forum. It was in response to a person asking whether Bohemian Grove is real, or just a myth to divert people away from Zionism. It adds well to my original post:

"I think we're missing an important aspect of secret societies, which certainly do exist, like the Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, Freemasons, etc.

These societies tend to recruit ('initiate') people, especially if they have potential to becoming influential people. They then steep them into mythologies and cultic brainwashing to make them loyal to the society, believe in its goals, or to generally control them.

A major way of controlling initiates is by getting them to participate in embarrassing/scandalous/lewd/criminal/etc behaviour, sold as 'occult rituals' and given significance. Once someone is steeped in such activities (some of the worst being pedophilia, sexual abuse, etc), that person can easily be blackmailed and manipulated, out of fear of being exposed and publicly destroyed.

So while research shows that Zionists are the main players and movers in world events today, having taken over banking, media, governments, etc, what we see is that the secret societies are a tool of the Zionists to produce willing (or unwilling) servants to Zionism, that are blackmailable and controlled, who can be promoted to serve certain functions. Many are willing agents because the society gives them beliefs that serve Zionism (eg New World utopias, fraternity, etc) or because of the whole 'I-scratch-your-back-you-scratch-mine' principles that work.

The reason I make the assertion that these secret societies are a tool of the Zionists is because:
1 they have very similar goals (one world government, messiah principles, rebuild the temple, destroy religions/nations)
2 many secret socities have Zionist origins (Illuminati started by Rothschild/Weishaupt, Bolsheviks, most occult rituals were learned from Middle Ages Kabbalist 'wonder-workers' and majis)

Therefore it's not surprising to find people who are members of secret societies in secret, and publicly work for Zionism.

Both Bush and Kerry are good examples. Supposedly differ on politics (myth of D vs R), but both avid Zionists, both Skull and Bones (wink wink, nudge, nudge), Kerry is a crypto-Jew, and Bush is a Talmud studying messianic Christian Zionist."

Cheers all,
-MZ

[Demockery101]

I love your post, Majid. Do you know a good website to go to and get the nitty gritty details about zionists and wwI & II? All the sites I've been to only covered general topics . I'm waiting forl Ry's book to come in, but I don't know if it covers this, I can't wait until I read it.

ziopedia.org