The Myspace Machine

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:40 am

iampalestine13 wrote:you can't say myspace isn't a powerful tool. Websites like this are great, but the problem is anyone here is ALREADY in the movement. It's a good place to get the movement going and all, but how about making people join it? On myspace you can reach people who aren't already involved and spread awareness, and you have to hope they care enough to move on to a website like this eventually, but you need a starting point. unfortunately not everyone is born with a political conscience

But the kind of people who go on myspace who wont care even if you told them outnumbers the others greatly. The internet alone cannot wake people up.

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:47 am

What the fuck guys... OK he doesn't know everything.. so what? Explain it to him without being insulting. How many more of you still held a myspace after reading this topic eh? You had second thoughts and to be honest its common mainstream thought among the people that Obama is a good guy to vote for... first black president? etc. you know?

and as for you iampalestine13, just delete myspace, not for the sake of being anti-Murdoch, but for your own sake, its a waste of time just like bebo, muslimspace and all the rest of em. You are being controlled by being compelled to sit your arse down on the computer when you could be out and about sowing the seeds of revolution, talking to people and organising things that will actually make a difference.

Post by **iampalestine13** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:01 am

i'm not deleting my myspace, i enjoy it and though it's slightly addictive i've learned to control that. Seriously guys get over it I support Obama u support Ron Paul neither of us will change our minds! And I'm a she

Post by **ledskof** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:41 am

iampalestine13 wrote:i'm not deleting my myspace, i enjoy it and though it's slightly addictive i've learned to control that. Seriously guys get over it I support Obama u support Ron Paul neither of us will change our minds! And I'm a she

Don't accuse me of being closed minded.

If Ron Paul came out tomorrow and said he was taking campaign finance money from AIPAC I would immediately stop supporting him.

If Obama dropped his Israel fealty level support, didn't find AIPACs support important and basically turned into something akin to Ron Paul who isn't just a big business corrupt government *-industrial-complex representative, I would support him. Just on the AIPAC issue alone: as long as Obama intends to get zionist donated money by kissing up to AIPAC, he will never be on my list of valid human beings, let alone presidential candidate.

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People voting like you are, "this person has a chance," is the reason we are still drilling down into a worse and worse country.

Not only are you supporting the problem but you are also making it easier for people to accept that the engineered vote count is legitimate

Post by **iampalestine13** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:21 pm

sometimes people who mean well have to lie to get there. i firmly bv his support for israel is fake, i mean any1 whos against israel CAN'T get elected, too many christians jews conservatives if he goes anti-israel he has no shot. I'm not say i like lying but if it's done for the good of the world sometimes u just have no choice

Post by **ledskof** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:47 pm

iampalestine13 wrote:sometimes people who mean well have to lie to get there. i firmly bv his support for israel is fake, i mean any1 whos against israel CAN'T get elected, too many christians jews conservatives if he goes anti-israel he has no shot. I'm not say i like lying but if it's done for the good of the world sometimes u just have no choice

I really don't have to comment on this.

But what the hell.

You believe that this person is lying yet intends to deliver the goodness that you desire in your heart?

Why not vote for someone who actually has honest intentions, says what he means, and has a track record with no connections to the things that you think Obama is lying about?

Oh yeah, because you don't think he has a chance. Every person who believes that is 1 less vote. Every person they pollute with that nonsense is also 1 less vote. Voting isn't about compromise. It's about voting for who you want. If you don't vote for who you want you won't get who you want no matter who wins.

How about this. If Obama wins, which seems surreally impossible for somereason, and he proceeds to fucking destroy the government the way past presidents have, will you then change your opinion and realize how futile playing the dem v rep game is?

Post by **iampalestine13** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:06 pm

i don't support zionism!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **iampalestine13** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:24 pm

r your skulls so thick u havent even seen my reasons 4 supporting him? are you so sheltered and stupid u dont know how the US system works?

Post by **Phys** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:25 pm

iampalestine13 wrote:sometimes people who mean well have to lie to get there. i firmly bv his support for israel is fake, i mean any1 whos against israel CAN'T get elected, too many christians jews conservatives if he goes anti-israel he has no shot. I'm not say i like lying but if it's done for the good of the world sometimes u just have no choice

I do agree w/you here. However, Obama isnt lying about his support for Israel, he does support them and will continue to maintain forces in Iraq and go to war w/Iran. He is funded the same as Hillary. They are the same, just a different race and gender, is all. If you must have a dem to vote for, you should support Edwards.

Post by **ledskof** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:43 pm

iampalestine13 wrote:r your skulls so thick u havent even seen my reasons 4 supporting him? are you so sheltered and stupid u dont know how the US system works?

No. We do know how it works. We understand how hard it is to vote someone into office that ABCNNBCBS hasn't decided is the valid candidate. Obama and Hillary aren't getting all the press because they are the best, or because the people chose them. It's because the same industrial complexes they represent chose them to divide america down the middle with. If CNN just decided out of the goodness of their hearts to start letting Ron Paul talk on TV, every body would probably vote for him.

So instead of playing their game, which doesn't get you anywhere no matter which side you vote for, I've dropped my membership and now I vote for who I want. At the very least I don't compromise myself with voting for scum when either scum gets you to the same awful destination.

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Sorry that was a bit misleading. I'm not suggesting that the megamedia companies functions independently in this regards. They are also part of the problem.