Ahmadinejad's Holocaust Problems are my holocaust problems

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:08 pm

You know what I mean... he didn't deny the holocaust... I know.

Post by **Bender** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:27 pm

/\D/\]\/[ wrote:You know what I mean... he didn't deny the holocaust... I know.

Other then that I totally agree with you. And thats also exactly what the iranian president said. (your previous post)

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:45 pm

I edited it to make sense:

Do not commit the same mistake as the Iranian president, to question events, numbers and facts about the holocaust, when we should be questioning the premise. It is not the holocaust that is used as the political hammer, it is the holocaust survivors, and they do exist, so ask why if they are a minority of the population of Israel should the Palestinians suffer if:

Post by **ect** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:58 pm

Poor David Irving, the Jews put a gun to his head and they still didn't let him go free.

"Naturally I apologise, I'm not a Holocaust denier. Obviously, I've changed my views. I spoke then about Auschwitz and gas chambers based on my knowledge at the time, but by 1991 when I came across the Eichmann papers, I wasn't saying that any more and I wouldn't say that now. The Nazis did murder millions of Jews." - David Irving

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:11 pm

Hopefully he's changed his general world view as well.

Post by **Irie Dave** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:14 am

It's too bad this whole strawman was created of the official story of the Holocaust is that when you question it it's automatically intepreted as support of what did take place, which was a bad enough injustice on it's own without the fabrications. Because I know people who went through it really suffered & probably had their lives ruined, & that's as bad as being killed almost but the official 6 million figure doesn't stand up to research. But when you say that it's interpreted as support for the Nazis which is wrong. & how many of those millions that didn't die in the camps had their lives permanently destroyed & years taken from them as a result of the experience, same as all war/imprisonment experiences. I wouldn't wish what did happen to the Jews in Germany under the Nazis on anyone. & the David Irvings & Ernst Zundels of the world are Nazi supporters so you're automatically classified with them. I don't agree w/Holocaust denial laws at all because I could get arrested for even writing this under them but if they're gonna have anything like that it should be Holocaust/Nazi endorsement laws. Saying it didn't happen as it's told, why is that automatically considered support of the Nazis? If you hate all Jews wouldn't you want it to have happened?

Post by **Bender** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:14 am

Same goes for palestinians right now. There approximately 5 to 6 million of them. Their life are being ruined for at least 60 years now, day in day out. And irony of ironies, this is done by these so called holocaust survivors. Even worse there is absolutely no law at all protecting them. Nothing.

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:29 am

Sensi Dave wrote:It's too bad this whole strawman was created of the official story of the Holocaust is that when you question it it's automatically intepreted as support of what did take place, which was a bad enough injustice on it's own without the fabrications. Because I know people who went through it really suffered & probably had their lives ruined, & that's as bad as being killed almost but the official 6 million figure doesn't stand up to research. But when you say that it's interpreted as support for the Nazis which is wrong. & how many of those millions that didn't die in the camps had their lives permanently destroyed & years taken from them as a result of the experience, same as all war/imprisonment experiences. I wouldn't wish what did happen to the Jews in Germany under the Nazis on anyone. & the David Irvings & Ernst Zundels of the world are Nazi supporters so you're automatically classified with them. I don't agree w/Holocaust denial laws at all because I could get arrested for even writing this under them but if they're gonna have anything like that it should be Holocaust/Nazi endorsement laws. Saying it didn't happen as it's told, why is that automatically considered support of the Nazis? If you hate all Jews wouldn't you want it to have happened?

Another irony, is that the Nazis* of today are the ones taking out anyone who utters anything but the official story of the holocaust.

*George Bush, Israel & Co.

Post by **MadMykl** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:20 am

I used to think it was such a contradiction to be a nazi and a zionist at the same time, but look at the Bushes! Grampa Bush's bank was shut down for directly funding hitler's nazi germany right?

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:19 am

Zionists benefited from Nazism.
The Nazis benefited from Zionism.

For the same reason because they had the same goals, they helped each other get Jews out of Germany into Palestine.
Then those Jews who refused to leave their country of birth were murdered.