Ahmadinejad's Holocaust Problems are my holocaust problems

Post by **Irie Dave** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:22 am

This guy did a pretty thorough analysis of the Holocaust.

Obviously the Nazis were bad either way but did Hitler ever express stated interest in eliminating all the Jews?

Post by **ect** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:36 am

"Sorry, the link that brought you to this page seems to be out of date or broken."

Speeches from national socialist leaders.

Did Bush ever express stated interest in eliminating all the Muslims?

Post by **ect** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:40 am

arowak_carib wrote:Why are they still paying? And, yes, who is getting the money.
Holocausism is big business.

....and holocaust politics is a good distraction that reinforces the holocaust industry.

I wish newbies had a post threshold, before they can start new topics.

This would encourage new users to actually read and engage in coversations, not just dump a link and run.

Yes, this is another psyop technique and as we can see, it works very well.

Post by Ry » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:21 am

Well I know how much they lie about the war with Native American and the US Civil War and I know how much the views of those wars have changed over time so I am sure that they are lying about WWII if there was nothing to hide then they would not throw historians in jail. They don't throw people in jail who think Elvis is still alive they don't arrest one side of the split division of view on the War of 1812. They can even let people argue about the possible foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor or why the US was really in Vietnam. You can argue passionately about the War in Iraq and how it was based on lies and why we are really there. You can argue about ancient wars even in Greece or China. But you can not by law any many countries even discuss any idea contrary to the official story of the Holocaust in WWII. And the official side is under no obligation to offer evidence of its 6 million figure claims.

Post by **islamic-s** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:30 pm

i read a book by a french egyptian man ,his name is ayman gardoudy i belive , the book is called ,hidden isreali and zionist poilcy
this book explains how hitler did not send the jews to the camps ,but instead it was zionist jews ,who were working with hitler because they told hitler they agree with him and that jews dont belong in europ ,that jews have a promised land by god to them n palestine , then the zionist started picking and choosing who gets to go to palestine . some famous zionist qoutes were pretty scary to think about ,,, like one qoute was like , its ok to lose 40'000 jews for 4000 worthy jews ... worthy jews means your a jew with a skill ,like a doctor ,engineer , or if your young and healthy then ur used for the new isreali military , other jews who didnt have skills were sent to the camps , the zionist never cared about jews , they cared about establishing isreal , and everything is for isreal , even today most the problems have isreals hand in the mix of troubles ..... no wonder rightous jews who know about history will reject the zionist fake jews , because they are the main reason they lost most of their family member , it was because of the new fake jewish community under the name of zionist , or zionisim .... ahmadinijad is right zionisim is coming to its end .

Post by **islamic-s** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:32 pm

Aaron wrote:aaah, this was great but sadly, not really something that can be done, nor would it be very "glamorous" to do so. Still funny =)

I wish newbies had a post threshold, before they can start new topics.

This would encourage new users to actually read and engage in coversations, not just dump a link and run.
the holocaust really happened, the facts are hidden and the whole event is saturated with disinfo. it's totally being used for political gains on an international scale, though mostly by zionist israel.

still, ry was right, we're lied to about every other war so why would this one be any exception?

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Post by **MadMykl** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:12 pm

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I wish newbies had a post threshold, before they can start new topics.

This would encourage new users to actually read and engage in coversations, not just dump a link and run.

the holocaust really happened, the facts are hidden and the whole event is saturated with disinfo. it's totally being used for political gains on an international scale, though mostly by zionist israel.

still, ry was right, we're lied to about every other war so why would this one be any exception?

bump
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Hey no psyop here, just a newbie still. Not trying to dump and run, I was curious to see what rye and the rest of you thought regarding the holocaust cause I didn't see a topic about it here, and I was interested to hear a response to that article from truth seekers.

I had no politial views whatsoever a few years ago, and am still trying to make what sense I can out of our world. I started to look at things different after seeing Loose Change, which I now know has as much disinfo as info.

You are all much more informed than I am, which is why I don't engage in more conversation here, but I truly learn alot from this forum and from whatreallyhappened.com, and infowars even though alex jones has alot of disinfo also, I learned recently with the arabs own hollywood thing, all the illuminatti stuff, etc....

Anyways, thankyou all for contributing your obsevations and opinions here for me and other quiet guests that are looking to hear opinions not expressed on the mainstream media, and hard to discuss with regular uninformed people. No one I work with in Kansas seems to even question 9/11, and I am made to seem completely crazy often.

So...regarding the holocaust, most of you seem to believe that while it certainly (?) occured, it has obviously been exploited to the benefit of the neo cons and isreal? I would lean in thinking that as well. It is to what degree, what is true, what is lie, that I of course do not know, and I guess that is like an infinite number of topics.

adam1 · Post by **adam1** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:34 pm

So...regarding the holocaust, most of you seem to believe that while it certainly (?) occured, it has obviously been exploited to the benefit of the neo cons and isreal? I would lean in thinking that as well. It is to what degree, what is true, what is lie, that I of course do not know, and I guess that is like an infinite number of topics.

You are right about where we stand on the holocaust. The events of the holocaust are simply not something relevant to today's situation, there is an idea that the holocaust is used as a political hammer to justify Israel's existance. But then you need not question the holocaust itself, question the myth that Israel was made for holocaust survivors. Holocaust survivors only compromise 250,000 in Israel's population, and they are mostly in poverty. The reparations money from Germany goes to the Israeli state, not the refugees.

Do not commit the same mistake as the Iranian president, to question events, numbers and facts about the holocaust, when we should be questioning the premise. It is not the holocaust that is used as the political hammer, it is the holocaust survivors, and they do exist, so ask why if they are a minority of the population of Israel should the Palestinians suffer if:

1: They had nothing to do with the survivors' reason to be a refugee in Israel
2: The majority of Zionists are not holocaust survivors at all.

yes?

Post by **GamerS** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:57 am

And those Christian extremists simply state that Israel gave that land to the Jews. To which I reply that most of the Jews living there are not direct decendants from the Israelites, and then I challenge their morality in the face of the blatant apartheid state and brutal occupation by the IDF.

Post by **Bender** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:28 pm

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So...regarding the holocaust, most of you seem to believe that while it certainly (?) occured, it has obviously been exploited to the benefit of the neo cons and isreal? I would lean in thinking that as well. It is to what degree, what is true, what is lie, that I of course do not know, and I guess that is like an infinite number of topics.
You are right about where we stand on the holocaust. The events of the holocaust are simply not something relevant to today's situation, there is an idea that the holocaust is used as a political hammer to justify Israel's existance. But then you need not question the holocaust itself, question the myth that Israel was made for holocaust survivors. Holocaust survivors only compromise 250,000 in Israel's population, and they are mostly in poverty. The reparations money from Germany goes to the Israeli state, not the refugees.

Do not commit the same mistake as the Iranian president, to question the holocaust having happened, when we should be questioning the premise. It is not the holocaust that is used as the political hammer, it is the holocaust survivors, and they do exist, so ask why if they are a minority of the population of Israel should the Palestinians suffer if:

1: They had nothing to do with the survivors' reason to be a refugee in Israel
2: The majority of Zionists are not holocaust survivors at all.

yes?

The Iranian president didn't question IF the holocaust happened. He questioned the official story.