tragedy and hope and
the unseen hand
i ask this because a poster by the name of drew j and i were having a dialogue with poster antineocons in Ry's thread "look what Sibel said about me" then the topic was apparently deleted and remade.
if you have read these books, i was wondering how the information therein fits into your guys' theory of "it's the jews stupid"
hopefully this topic doesnt get deleted
have you guys read these books?
have you guys read these books?
Oftentimes have I heard you speak of one who commits a wrong as though he were not one of you, but a stranger unto you and an intruder upon your world.
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you,
So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.
-Kahlil Gibran
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you,
So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.
-Kahlil Gibran
Re: have you guys read these books?
it's not deleted it was just moved to the just dumb section because that is what it is.
those books will teach you almost nothing. I hadn't heard of the second one but if it's like the first then its billshit.
those books will teach you almost nothing. I hadn't heard of the second one but if it's like the first then its billshit.
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Re: have you guys read these books?
and its also not "its the jews, stupid" its "its the ZIONISTS, stupid" not all jews == zionists not all zionists == jews.
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”. - Ben Franklin
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” - Thomas Jefferson
If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." -Anatole France
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." -Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." -Galileo
END THE GODDAMN WARS!
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” - Thomas Jefferson
If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." -Anatole France
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." -Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." -Galileo
END THE GODDAMN WARS!
Re: have you guys read these books?
I've read both. Epperson is a brilliant writer - The Unseen Hand covers many aspects that other books do not. Yeah, he's a fundie Christian, but so what? I use all of his books as references.
Quigley's book is an insider's vision. He was Clinton's mentor. The question is - was Quigley issuing a warning, a blueprint or a prophesy?
Quigley's book is an insider's vision. He was Clinton's mentor. The question is - was Quigley issuing a warning, a blueprint or a prophesy?
Re: have you guys read these books?
regarding this question...
One of the problems is that both the books mentioned in the OP are more than 30 years old. The balence of power shifted from the British establishment (Quigley's thesis) to the zionists in the 70s. The same goes for Lyndon LaRouche - he's great up to a point, but he hasn't realised that the Brits lost power along with their empire.
Epperson discusses the Rothschilds and other subjects like the Korean war, but he doesn't get into recent developments, obviously. He's also got some good stuff on bullshit evolution theories (I studied evolution at university - it's mostly bullshit. Not as bullshit as creationism, but bullshit nevertheless)
Take, for example, John Pilger's Freedom Next Time. Does he blame Jews? No. Is the book absolutely full of real and important info? Yes. Same goes for my physics books.if you have read these books, i was wondering how the information therein fits into your guys' theory of "it's the jews stupid"
One of the problems is that both the books mentioned in the OP are more than 30 years old. The balence of power shifted from the British establishment (Quigley's thesis) to the zionists in the 70s. The same goes for Lyndon LaRouche - he's great up to a point, but he hasn't realised that the Brits lost power along with their empire.
Epperson discusses the Rothschilds and other subjects like the Korean war, but he doesn't get into recent developments, obviously. He's also got some good stuff on bullshit evolution theories (I studied evolution at university - it's mostly bullshit. Not as bullshit as creationism, but bullshit nevertheless)
Re: have you guys read these books?
thank you guys so much for some real responses. i was not completely aware that israel/zionists had gained the balance of power in the last 30 years. i previously thought that they were pawns being used by the real powers.
seeing as how those two books are "outdated", could you guys kindly recommend a book or two with more relevant information for today?
btw i have ryan's book already.
seeing as how those two books are "outdated", could you guys kindly recommend a book or two with more relevant information for today?
btw i have ryan's book already.
Oftentimes have I heard you speak of one who commits a wrong as though he were not one of you, but a stranger unto you and an intruder upon your world.
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you,
So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.
-Kahlil Gibran
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you,
So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.
-Kahlil Gibran
Re: have you guys read these books?
I don't like how people are throwing around terms like "the jews" or "the arabs." Just say Jews or Arabs don't use the article "the" because it makes you look like an ignorant collectivist that thinks people have racial predispositions to do evil.
Yes a lot of Jews were involved in 911. That on no way equates to "the jews" in general. A lot of old people were involved too, as were people with gray hair, balding, were right handed, male, blue eyes, etc. It's stupid to break things down into categories like that and them blame everyone else with similar characteristics.
Yes a lot of Jews were involved in 911. That on no way equates to "the jews" in general. A lot of old people were involved too, as were people with gray hair, balding, were right handed, male, blue eyes, etc. It's stupid to break things down into categories like that and them blame everyone else with similar characteristics.
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Re: have you guys read these books?
thanks bud, ive read the mearscheimer and walt and i will definetely check out the other one. speaking of congressmen, watching some of the videos on youtube of james trafficant brought tears to my eyes.
any more book suggestions would be greatly appreciated guys!
p.s. a little story. one day a few of my friend and myself tripped on some magic mushrooms. my jewish friend got extremely paranoid. he told us that he is an "alien" and that he was "sorry" (we often bashed him for being a scheming jew (he actually does scheme, but we bash everyone in our group, we're guys after all)) he begged us, "please dont kill me". he backed into a corner and said that he just wanted to be friends. it was as if he thought that we "discovered his secret" and was going into survival mode or something. i dunno...
something about that incident always bugged me a little. even though its obvious that people can have adverse reactions to psilocybin, it still bugs me. maybe i should just forget about the entire incident.
any more book suggestions would be greatly appreciated guys!
p.s. a little story. one day a few of my friend and myself tripped on some magic mushrooms. my jewish friend got extremely paranoid. he told us that he is an "alien" and that he was "sorry" (we often bashed him for being a scheming jew (he actually does scheme, but we bash everyone in our group, we're guys after all)) he begged us, "please dont kill me". he backed into a corner and said that he just wanted to be friends. it was as if he thought that we "discovered his secret" and was going into survival mode or something. i dunno...
something about that incident always bugged me a little. even though its obvious that people can have adverse reactions to psilocybin, it still bugs me. maybe i should just forget about the entire incident.
Oftentimes have I heard you speak of one who commits a wrong as though he were not one of you, but a stranger unto you and an intruder upon your world.
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you,
So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.
-Kahlil Gibran
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you,
So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.
-Kahlil Gibran
Re: have you guys read these books?
For the best books, check out this: iamthewitness.com/books/
Start with protocols and then try Hitchcock's book or Fahey's or Bernstein's or Woolfolk's book.
Start with protocols and then try Hitchcock's book or Fahey's or Bernstein's or Woolfolk's book.
Figuring out exactly how 9/11 was done is the work of crime investigators or conspiracy hobbyists who will endlessly go on discussing and debating every minuscule and intricate detail of the event to no avail. It doesn't take a structural engineer to tell you that two 110 story buildings and a 47 story steel skyscraper plummeting to the ground at nearly free-fall speed requires the assistance of explosives. All you need is two eyes that can see and a brain that thinks to come to that sound conclusion. This is why it is of my opinion that more emphasis should be placed on the "who" instead of the "how". It should be obvious to anyone that discovering 'who did 9/11' is infinitely more important than discovering how they did it.
Want to know who did it and why? Go here: http://www.theinfounderground.com/forum ... f=6&t=5367
Want to know who did it and why? Go here: http://www.theinfounderground.com/forum ... f=6&t=5367