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Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:44 pm
by R4F1
The Cologne Quagmire of New Years Eve 2015.

As has been discussed, the alternative media has never been as blatantly homogeneous and inept than currently right now. Everybody's on the Trump bandwagon, a lot of people (Corbett/Kokesh) aren't even talking about current issues, and everybody's yelling "The muslims are coming! The muslims are coming! Rape, plunder!"

I wanna start a dialogue to actually do some critical thinking, instead of being a little bitch and fixating on surface level shit on what are clearly multi-layered issues. I call it the "Cologne Quagmire" because the incident was a clusterfuck of multitudes, and we can't let the Feminists and White Knights control the narrative labeling the entire incident one of "sexual assault."

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What we know about this situation is that during NYE in Germany, there was a presumably coordinated incident where firecrackers were thrown to create panic and hysteria. Where after individuals - assumed to be of Arab or North African descent - engaged in acts of sexual assault and robbery/theft. Because of the perpetrator's background, there is massive hysteria towards "Muslims" and "refugees" as a whole who are blamed for the incident.

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1. If this incident took place 3 years ago, the first thing people would be questioning is who are these fireworks throwers? This sounds like a textbook act of agent provocateurism. Is it possible that elements with the State, or far right-wing parties, orchestrated this incident to "provoke" a situation?

2. According to most reports/claims, the perpetrators who threw the firecrackers are the same people who engaged in the groping and theft. In other words, one was organized to allow the other. So by definition, there is a conspiracy at work.

3. Assuming this was entirely coordinated, since when does a race or religion act as a unit? Whenever someone blames a race or religion for engaging in a conspiracy or crime, you know that is either grossly exaggerated or forged. Parties engage in conspiracies, not peoples. Parties who share a common goal or ideology.

4. You can't blame Muslims, Jews, Arabs or refugees for a conspiracy. A conspiracy involves individuals who knowingly or unknowingly (useful idiots) work towards a larger end. A "conspiracy" involving an entire race or religion can never work, because it lacks cohesion. The very idea that they are cohesive is a willful forgery or exaggeration. The people who believe in it, are the useful idiots. Which in some cases, may actually point towards who really is behind the conspiracy.

5. Of course, some may claim that the refugees or migrants do have a common ideology, and it is Islam. That because of their religion, they are engaging in systematic theft and sexual assault. This becomes a situation where you either believe that, or you're capable of nuanced thinking and you don't.

6. In other words, this entire situation is ideal for a divide and conquer strategy, and it ideal to bring people who are on the fence on to your side. If you are against migrants or Muslims, then this is the perfect scenario. Why would refugees want to engage in an coordinated act whereby their own refuge comes under jeopardy?

7. This whole incident, seems to an be an act of agent provocateurs. If not, then its the work of a gang. Poverty can lead to desperation and/or degeneracy. Migrants or even refugees, who are in the country but are alienated where they cannot sustain themselves (can't get work), may engage in coordinated acts as a means to getting their fill.


What are your thoughts? People need to look into this incident. Who were these people who engaged in the firecrackers and caused the panic? Even if they're migrants or Arabs, were they a gang or were they paid off?

Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:07 pm
by TheNaitch
Well Im not going to say that this was an inside job.....yet. But it seems that rape of local women is a common tactic to demonize immigrants or patsies that the state is using to distract from the real issues of the state.

Israel used fear of rape of local women against the African migrants. Trump and reefer propaganda blamed Mexicans for raping white women.

When there is a massive flow of immigrants from the 3rd world you will always have criminal elements involved. Much like the Mariel boat lift when Castro used miami as a dumping ground for the dregs of Cuban society. After the mariel boatlift old jewish women were being raped on miami beach by cuban migrants. There was a massive spike in rapes, drugs and violence in general. However nobody at the time was willing to blame Catholicism or Santaria or whatever religion the cuban immigrants were following as it was not politically beneficial.

The problem I have with the alt right reports of the cologne quagmire is that they have gone full retard with the religious bias in the reporting for a while now. They have been using the narrative of muslim rape as a demonization tool for a while now. For example they say that sweden has been covering up muslim rape for a while now. The fact is that there have been muslim immigrants in sweden for a long time. A lot of persian and arab immigrants moved to Sweden decades ago. Also not to make a generalization but, sweden has some crazy rape laws. Look at what they are accusing julian assange of.

The fact of the matter is that when you have large gatherings like NYE celebrations criminals target the event. Whether its to pickpocket, mug, rob, rape, scam tourists or whatever else they can do if there is a large gathering they can find more targets.

There is probably a lot more to this story and who was involved. But by the time the truth comes out most of the media outlents will have moved on.

As far as who carried it out, using firecrackers is pretty low rent. I'm more inclined to believe that if there were gangs paid off to do this they probably were paid by a low rent organization like pegida.

Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:23 pm
by Ry
fireworks or not you dont rape people. White Women generally dont like brown people and so they resort to rape. its that simple.

Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:36 pm
by TheNaitch
Of course its wrong. Not trying to justify what happened nor denying what happened but, just trying to discuss.

From what I noticed women generally don't like any type of perv immigrants catcalling them or grabbing on them.

Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:18 am
by Raoul
R4F1 wrote:I wanna start a dialogue to actually do some critical thinking, instead of being a little bitch and fixating on surface level shit on what are clearly multi-layered issues. I call it the "Cologne Quagmire"
Europe is falling and you want to concentrate on one night. Keep it kosher brah

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Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:55 pm
by TheNaitch
Seriously, Can you imagine the outcry if western soldiers invaded a muslim country and raped children? Oh wait...

http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/01/abu-ghraib/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Remember, its not terrorism (or rape) if the west does it.

Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:21 pm
by Raoul
Ah yes perfect! Rape therefore rape. ...and I guess you're a "moderate" Muslim, perfect, please bring more of your kind to the west.

Just a subtle little hint... Islam you're doing it wrong. Don't worry I'm sure you'll get it, assimilation should be easy.

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Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:35 pm
by adesole
This girl got stabbed to death in Sweden by a migrant.


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Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:12 am
by Ry

Re: Starting a discussion on the Cologne Quagmire of NYE

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:25 am
by Raoul
Ry wrote:
and with Japan only accepting 27 refugees at least 2 managed to be rapists. Japan did have the right idea but even with a comically low amount of refugees, still the raping... #Rapefugees trended for a reason.

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/02/22 ... -of-woman/

For the longest time I stuck up for muslims thinking all the stories were just jewish propaganda. And like a liberal I would not listen to it or look at the data or believe koran quotes to be true. It turns out we're very culturally different and assimilation of these people in to western nations is a laughable concept. As much as the west tries to accommodate these people they have no interest in changing, this is the behavior of a conquering force. We have to change to accommodate them. This is the behavior of a once great, now cucked nation. At this point the mental gymnastics the left have to use to rationalize their position would get 10's even from the Russian judge.

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do Muslims give a shit about me or my people, my nation or our national identity and traditions? No. They oppose it. Actually kind of yes they do give a shit and masturbate in public pools when they decide the women aren't dressed modestly enough for their tastes (sadly not a joke). When Trump said, "We will be saying Merry Christmas not Happy Holidays at Christmas time again if I'm elected" oddly gave me hope. I thought wow we actually have an American running for President what a nice change.

Locals Fled Pool After Migrants Masturbated Into Jacuzzi, Defecated Into Kid’s Pool, Invaded Girls Changing Rooms

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01 ... d-bathers/