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Re: Officials: Teen commits suicide on webcam as others watch

Post by EndAllApartheid » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:00 am

It's okay. It wasn't really directed at you anyway, it was just a general comment for Obama voters in general.

I can understand why they voted for him, yet I just can't grasp that they did when there was Ron Paul & if we had stuck to our guns we could've had him. The best choice out of the election, they were correct about that. It would have been as simple as everyone ignoring what the media does and just vote Ron Paul. He would have won so easily given his large vote in Texas, Montana & Pennsylvania. It wasn't to be, though.

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Re: Officials: Teen commits suicide on webcam as others watch

Post by Phys » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:26 pm

Not sure what you are talking. Im talking about Teen commits suicide on webcam as others watch so I will try again.

Phys wrote:I believe there is a place for everything even suicide. If you don’t want to commit suicide, don’t do it. If you want to, you will find a way. Drugs may prolong life or not. The country/world is a bunch of complainers.

Words of wisdom: get over it.

No matter what happened to him or you in your life fucking deal with it. When people are nice to you, accept it. When people are mean, grow. Fucking live your life the way you want to within the limits of law. This is all you get and all you will ever get.

I do. Live my life that is. Some people hate me for it, some people love me for it but I only answer to my own self in the mirror each night/ my consciousness.

No amount of punishment will make me feel sorry for something I don’t feel sorry for and no amount of comfort will relieve the guilt that I feel guilty for. That is my punishment and my reward and it exist now. You are nothing more than a result of your past. The only thing that can change your destiny is cultivating kindness.

Once again the prophet sums it up best:

Then one of the judges of the city stood forth and said, "Speak to us of Crime and Punishment."
And he answered saying:
It is when your spirit goes wandering upon the wind,
That you, alone and unguarded, commit a wrong unto others and therefore unto yourself.
And for that wrong committed must you knock and wait a while unheeded at the gate of the blessed.
Like the ocean is your god-self;
It remains for ever undefiled.
And like the ether it lifts but the winged.
Even like the sun is your god-self;
It knows not the ways of the mole nor seeks it the holes of the serpent.
But your god-self does not dwell alone in your being.
Much in you is still man, and much in you is not yet man,
But a shapeless pigmy that walks asleep in the mist searching for its own awakening.
And of the man in you would I now speak.
For it is he and not your god-self nor the pigmy in the mist, that knows crime and the punishment of crime.
Oftentimes have I heard you speak of one who commits a wrong as though he were not one of you, but a stranger unto you and an intruder upon your world.
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you,
So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.
And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree,
So the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all.
Like a procession you walk together towards your god-self.
You are the way and the wayfarers.
And when one of you falls down he falls for those behind him, a caution against the stumbling stone.
Ay, and he falls for those ahead of him, who though faster and surer of foot, yet removed not the stumbling stone.
And this also, though the word lie heavy upon your hearts:
The murdered is not unaccountable for his own murder,
And the robbed is not blameless in being robbed.
The righteous is not innocent of the deeds of the wicked,
And the white-handed is not clean in the doings of the felon.
Yea, the guilty is oftentimes the victim of the injured,
And still more often the condemned is the burden-bearer for the guiltless and unblamed.
You cannot separate the just from the unjust and the good from the wicked;
For they stand together before the face of the sun even as the black thread and the white are woven together.
And when the black thread breaks, the weaver shall look into the whole cloth, and he shall examine the loom also.
If any of you would bring judgment the unfaithful wife,
Let him also weight the heart of her husband in scales, and measure his soul with measurements.
And let him who would lash the offender look unto the spirit of the offended.
And if any of you would punish in the name of righteousness and lay the ax unto the evil tree, let him see to its roots;
And verily he will find the roots of the good and the bad, the fruitful and the fruitless, all entwined together in the silent heart of the earth.
And you judges who would be just,
What judgment pronounce you upon him who though honest in the flesh yet is a thief in spirit?
What penalty lay you upon him who slays in the flesh yet is himself slain in the spirit?
And how prosecute you him who in action is a deceiver and an oppressor,
Yet who also is aggrieved and outraged?
And how shall you punish those whose remorse is already greater than their misdeeds?
Is not remorse the justice which is administered by that very law which you would fain serve?
Yet you cannot lay remorse upon the innocent nor lift it from the heart of the guilty.
Unbidden shall it call in the night, that men may wake and gaze upon themselves.
And you who would understand justice, how shall you unless you look upon all deeds in the fullness of light?
Only then shall you know that the erect and the fallen are but one man standing in twilight between the night of his pigmy-self and the day of his god-self,
And that the corner-stone of the temple is not higher than the lowest stone in its foundation.

Source: http://leb.net/~mira/works/prophet/prophet12.html
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Re: Officials: Teen commits suicide on webcam as others watch

Post by Ry » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:58 pm

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Re: Officials: Teen commits suicide on webcam as others watch

Post by Phys » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:25 pm

Drug use certainly accounts for a lot of suicides. I think stress and shame add to the majority of it though.

Here is a list of countries and number of suicides. I found on wiki although can be backed up with other sources I just liked the way it was arranged on this site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

America certainly doesnt lead the world on suicides. I do wish this guy could have found another way to cope, but if death was what he really wanted then Im glad he got it.

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Re: Officials: Teen commits suicide on webcam as others watch

Post by Ed » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:59 pm

Phys wrote:Drug use certainly accounts for a lot of suicides. I think stress and shame add to the majority of it though.

Here is a list of countries and number of suicides. I found on wiki although can be backed up with other sources I just liked the way it was arranged on this site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

America certainly doesnt lead the world on suicides. I do wish this guy could have found another way to cope, but if death was what he really wanted then Im glad he got it.
I think shame, stress or guilt are the main reasons people are driven to kill themselves. psychotropic drugs have no guarantee at all to help anybody.

the problem is who wants their happiness to be 'fixed' with drugs. that person was most probably likely got depressed or stressed due to problems within their own life, most people it's nothing to do with them having some in-built in their brain that makes them depressed. the problem is a) the drugs sucks b)people shouldn't be told to rely on drugs to help in their life, they can be addictive too. c) do you think the drugs companies care about people getting counselling or trying to sort things out in their life???? it's a problem with our society. we always want quick fixes for symptoms of problems and never truly think about the underlying causes.

its funny that Lithuania has the highest suicide rate, my gf is from there. apparently no one really knows why it is like that though. a lot of sort of ex-soviet countries near the top. it might be the cooooollldd winters they have.

look how low the suicide rate is in Iran.
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Re: Officials: Teen commits suicide on webcam as others watch

Post by Corey Michael » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:43 pm

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