Is predator control a good idea or does it more often than not disrupt mother nature's balance and ultimately have a negative impact on the ecosystem? For example, is it worth killing thousands of animals from geese to minks and otters to foxes for say the safety of 10 birds? Sound crazy? Well that is exactly what is going on at the Cape Hatteras National Recreational Seashore for the last 4 years. To say the results have had a slithery result is an understatement.
The cotton mouth is the most deadly snake in North Carolina. They can kill and are very aggressive. There are only a few predators of the cotton mouth foxes and raccoons will kill cotton mouths on occasion but by far the biggest predator of the cotton mouth is the opossum. All three of these natural predators of the cotton mouth have been killed by the hundreds in the tiny woods in Buxton on Hatteras Island by the National Park Service as part of predator control to help save a few nesting pairs of birds. As a result the number of nesting pairs has remained the same as it has always been however, the number of cotton mouths has risen dramatically. Local bass fisherman, hikers etc say they have seen far more snakes since the predator control began and are not happy about it. Not only are the mammals of Hatteras being killed but they are meeting that death through, drowning in underwater traps, having their necks broken by other traps or even poisoned with gas. These animals cannot relocate because they are stuck on the island and cannot swim 35 miles to the mainland to escape the slaughter. They are the descendants of raccoons and minks from so long ago the island was still attached t the mainland. The word raccoon for example is a Hatteras Indian word that means to scratch and it was on the Outer Banks that the English first saw the animal and incorporated the word raccoon into the English language. Now residents fear they will soon no longer have any raccoons or other mammals and will be left with nothing in the beautiful seashore but a lot of piousness snakes, mosquitoes and a few birds.
predator contorl is it wrong?
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It's an island...you can't close the beach without massive economic damage.
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Re: predatr contorl is it wrong?
It's really sad to see some species go the way of native americans...
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"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
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Re: predatr contorl is it wrong?
It's upsetting to see slaughter sanctioned mindlessly.
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Re: predatr contorl is it wrong?
http://www.vimeo.com/19989143
be warned this video will piss you off but only if you have morals
please help make this video go viral please
be warned this video will piss you off but only if you have morals
please help make this video go viral please
It's an island...you can't close the beach without massive economic damage.
The greatest threat to our freedoms is our own government.
The greatest threat to our freedoms is our own government.
Re: predator contorl is it wrong?
Protest. GO out to the Point the day after they close it. And do it in mass.
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Re: predatr contorl is it wrong?
It's gone!general hoke wrote:http://www.vimeo.com/19989143
be warned this video will piss you off but only if you have morals
please help make this video go viral please
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Re: predatr contorl is it wrong?
I never got to see that one. I'm not exactly sure but, there might have a problem with how something was represented in that video that caused the filmmaker to replace it with the one below. I try to save most videos anymore in case they get pulled. Fortunately, I have a Firefux addon now that will grab vimeos.Verbos wrote:It's gone!general hoke wrote:http://www.vimeo.com/19989143
be warned this video will piss you off but only if you have morals
please help make this video go viral please
Trapping on Hatteras Island
This video demonstrates the practices being used by the National Park Service
to indiscriminately trap and kill animals the Service considers may be predators
of Piping Plover chicks or eggs on Hatteras Island and the Cape Hatteras
National Seashore. The original posting of this video had 1,360 views when it
was taken down.
http://vimeo.com/20087792
I recently posted three videos on the subject here:
http://www.ancreport.com/forum/v ... 11#p155341
Ry has two recent videos, oops, make that one MUST SEE video here:
http://www.ancreport.com/forum/v ... 11#p155234
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"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
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"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
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It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.
Re: predator contorl is it wrong?
The Park Service did the same thing out west
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Re: predator contorl is it wrong?
I would add the NPS has helped one animal....the cotton mouth snake an aggressive snake that can KILL you. There numbers are up because the main natural predator of the snake/snake eggs is the opossum followed by the racoon and fox all 3 of which the NPS has been killing for the last 4 years. Bravo NPS WHEN WILL YOU LEARN!??
It's an island...you can't close the beach without massive economic damage.
The greatest threat to our freedoms is our own government.
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Re: predator contorl is it wrong?
2011 Pre-Nesting Closures
I posted the February 18th NPS announcement here:
http://www.ancreport.com/forum/v ... 11#p155395
I posted the February 18th NPS announcement here:
http://www.ancreport.com/forum/v ... 11#p155395
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It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.
▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀
It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.