Really, that makes my blood boil. You cannot even hear a peep from him and they take him away. Absolutely scandalous.
Even if there was a bit of heckling, I don't think it can justify what they did to him.
Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hillary Clinton police!!!!!!
Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hilary CLinton police!!!
our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
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Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hilary CLinton police!!!
We certainly have allowed them to criminalize free speech!
Johann Von Goethe, once said, there are none more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free.
"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
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"...Government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."
. For government is an expedient, by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. - Henry David Thoreau
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Tenth Amen < AX >
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Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hilary CLinton police!!!
In May of 2006, Ray McGovern confronted Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
in Atlanta about his [Rumsfeld's] lies concerning WMD's in Iraq. The following CNN
video includes both McGovern's polite question, his near ejection from the room by
security and Rumsfeld's intervention of that ejection, and previous public
statements made by Rumsfeld concerning WMDs in Iraq that are a part of the
historical record that clearly proves...
Donald Rumsfeld is a fucking liar
Ray McGovern discusses his confrontation with Rumsfeld on CNN
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In political philosophy, the right of revolution (or right of rebellion) is
the right or duty, variously stated throughout history, of the subjects of a
nation to overthrow a government that acts against their common interests.
Belief in this right extends back to ancient China, and it has been used
throughout history to justify various rebellions, including the American
Revolution and the French Revolution.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
inevitable.”
~~ John Fitzgerald Kennedy
“The Revolution was effected before the War commenced. The Revolution was in
the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of
their duties and obligations. This radical change in the principles, opinions,
sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.”
~~ John Adams
"Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not
fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty."
~~ Justice Brandeis, WHITNEY V. CALIFORNIA, 274 U.S. 357
in Atlanta about his [Rumsfeld's] lies concerning WMD's in Iraq. The following CNN
video includes both McGovern's polite question, his near ejection from the room by
security and Rumsfeld's intervention of that ejection, and previous public
statements made by Rumsfeld concerning WMDs in Iraq that are a part of the
historical record that clearly proves...
Donald Rumsfeld is a fucking liar
Ray McGovern discusses his confrontation with Rumsfeld on CNN
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In political philosophy, the right of revolution (or right of rebellion) is
the right or duty, variously stated throughout history, of the subjects of a
nation to overthrow a government that acts against their common interests.
Belief in this right extends back to ancient China, and it has been used
throughout history to justify various rebellions, including the American
Revolution and the French Revolution.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
inevitable.”
~~ John Fitzgerald Kennedy
“The Revolution was effected before the War commenced. The Revolution was in
the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of
their duties and obligations. This radical change in the principles, opinions,
sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.”
~~ John Adams
"Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not
fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty."
~~ Justice Brandeis, WHITNEY V. CALIFORNIA, 274 U.S. 357
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It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.
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It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.
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Whirled Peas
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Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hilary CLinton police!!!
At 6:15 he mentions how Hilary Clinton is talking about peaceful means of protests - isn't that what he did? Isn't that what she says she condones?
WTF?
Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hilary CLinton police!!!
I sent the videos I made to Ray and since him War by Deception as well.
Get The Empire Unmasked here
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Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hilary CLinton police!!!
I really, really, really can't stand that fucking lying fatass sack of dog excrement.Whirled Peas wrote:
At 6:15 he mentions how Hilary Clinton is talking about peaceful means of protests - isn't that what he did? Isn't that what she says she condones?
WTF?
Ironic and surreal don't even begin to describe that part of her speech AFTER McGovern was assaulted by der Shtate Diparment goonies. And, her Thighness didn't flinch for a second.
But, what's most bizarre is that the bitch was delivering her speech with a nearly emotionless, straight face. And, then she puts on a really weird looking shit-eating grin just before saying "Then the government plugged the plug." Just after she said that, you realize from the audio that something is going on and then the camera picks up the "scuffle." It's as if her saying "pulled the plug" was the cue for the goonies to pull McGovern from the room.
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It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.
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It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.
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Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hilary CLinton police!!!
Hilary "is awful, because she routinely violates the rights of the people".
She is an idiot. I want to know if she has made an apology.
Well I just saw this on youtube so I guess not. How sad is that?
She is an idiot. I want to know if she has made an apology.
Well I just saw this on youtube so I guess not. How sad is that?
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Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hilary CLinton police!!!
Ray McGovern Discusses Brutal Arrest at Secretary Clinton's Internet Freedom Speech
February 17, 2011
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ray-Mc ... 7-781.html
Ray explained that it was in this spirit that he chose to protest Clinton's policies and track record.
"Hillary is the driving force, together with a few others, behind the wars in Afghanistan. She's one of the big hawks in Iran. When I look at her and her husband that they don't know the first thing about war. I do and so do my fellow Veterans for Peace. I have to make clear that we Veterans for Peace think that her policies are an abomination to the nation, that they are at cross purposes to the country and not everybody should applaud and give her the idea that she's doing the right thing."
"I knew that Hillary knew, at the beginning of the war, that Hillary knew how things would go. There was a young lady who was working as Hillary Clinton's personal staff chief, when she was a senator in 2002 and 2003, was in a class I taught in DC and I'd ask her to give her boss articles I wrote. And she did give them to her. So I know that. She made a political calculation that she needed to be strong because she was a woman even though she knew from us that the unintended consequences would be catastrophic. She knew all that and made that calculation."
"The height of irony, of course, is that was her tragic flaw that let Obama beat her. She supported the war and Obama didn't. She is the height of hypocrisy. When people die because we have hypocrites at the top of our government, that compels me to make a statement in whatever way I can. It was not the theme of her speech that I was protesting. It was her war policies and support of Mubarak."
When Secretary Clinton walked into the room, the audience rose and applauded before sitting back down. All but Ray McGovern, just as he had done hundreds of times before in the Catholic church without incident. McGovern described what happened next.
"It was my symbolic way of saying not everybody agrees with her. I turned my back to her and stood [silently]. When she came in I not only remained standing but I turned my back to her."
This time things were very different. Ray commented, "I didn't think that would get me roughed up and arrested for disorderly conduct."
Full article here:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ray-Mc ... 7-781.html
February 17, 2011
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ray-Mc ... 7-781.html
Ray explained that it was in this spirit that he chose to protest Clinton's policies and track record.
"Hillary is the driving force, together with a few others, behind the wars in Afghanistan. She's one of the big hawks in Iran. When I look at her and her husband that they don't know the first thing about war. I do and so do my fellow Veterans for Peace. I have to make clear that we Veterans for Peace think that her policies are an abomination to the nation, that they are at cross purposes to the country and not everybody should applaud and give her the idea that she's doing the right thing."
"I knew that Hillary knew, at the beginning of the war, that Hillary knew how things would go. There was a young lady who was working as Hillary Clinton's personal staff chief, when she was a senator in 2002 and 2003, was in a class I taught in DC and I'd ask her to give her boss articles I wrote. And she did give them to her. So I know that. She made a political calculation that she needed to be strong because she was a woman even though she knew from us that the unintended consequences would be catastrophic. She knew all that and made that calculation."
"The height of irony, of course, is that was her tragic flaw that let Obama beat her. She supported the war and Obama didn't. She is the height of hypocrisy. When people die because we have hypocrites at the top of our government, that compels me to make a statement in whatever way I can. It was not the theme of her speech that I was protesting. It was her war policies and support of Mubarak."
When Secretary Clinton walked into the room, the audience rose and applauded before sitting back down. All but Ray McGovern, just as he had done hundreds of times before in the Catholic church without incident. McGovern described what happened next.
"It was my symbolic way of saying not everybody agrees with her. I turned my back to her and stood [silently]. When she came in I not only remained standing but I turned my back to her."
This time things were very different. Ray commented, "I didn't think that would get me roughed up and arrested for disorderly conduct."
Full article here:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ray-Mc ... 7-781.html
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It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.
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It's not just for breakfast any more.
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic
plan of reducing [a people] to slavery."
~~ Thomas Jefferson
"Power kills, absolute power kills absolutely. The more power a government has, the more it can arbitrarily make war on others and murder foreign and domestic subjects. The more that government is constrained and diffused, the less tendency there is for them to commit genocide."
~~ Art Crino
When they put you in the internment camp, if you're really, really good, they might let you watch Dancing With The Stars.
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Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hillary Clinton police!!
http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/02/23/m ... ds-prayer/
And then there is this guy that shouted:
“Prayer has no place in government! Prayer has no place in government!”
and got thrown out of the room.
Looks like freedom of speech AND peaceful assembly is not among our rights anymore.
Both people, Ray McGovern and this guy have something to say that SHOULD be listened to. The sheeple could learn a thing or two. But alas, they are not allowed to speak.
This is a problem. Watch for more ...
And then there is this guy that shouted:
“Prayer has no place in government! Prayer has no place in government!”
and got thrown out of the room.
Looks like freedom of speech AND peaceful assembly is not among our rights anymore.
Both people, Ray McGovern and this guy have something to say that SHOULD be listened to. The sheeple could learn a thing or two. But alas, they are not allowed to speak.
This is a problem. Watch for more ...
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Re: Ray McGovern brutally beaten by Hillary Clinton police!!
Hear,hear Whirled peas. Speaking of sheeple that Christopher Hitchens/Sam Harris-worshiping jackass Hemant Mehta of FriednlyAtheist can suck it. Idiot thinks people who refuse to vaccinate their children are idiots. (sorry for going off topic but hate that douche)
Let's make like a Legolas and kill the big Oliphant in the room. Corny puns are fun.
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