Remember the Jewish lady from the Donahue Show? look at this

[Ry]

gee what are the odds.

[Ry]

[Gixxer]

what is the point behind this Ry? do you think Jewish people are inherently dishonest or something?

[Raoul]

because it is a uniquely jewish thing and they are directly related, if it was eskimos telling the lies about "The" HOLOCAUST that would be pointless. jews inherently have extra credibility when talking about the holocaust, that is why David Cole is such a legend.

[sorrysorry]

what is the point behind this Ry? do you think Jewish people are inherently dishonest or something?

Oh jeez another one. Just stop with this "save a Jew" mentality folks. I don't like Ryan, but he's made it clear enough many times he does not believe in any Jewish conspiracy. He'll be the first to mock people who expose disproportionate elite Jewish crimes and label them "kooks". He always blames America, Great Britain, MIC but never elite Jews (at best he'll say Zionists or Israel). Basically he's no Proteanview. Proteanview tells it like it is, and is not PC. So it's funny you'd even ask him if he thinks Jews are "inherently dishonest".


I on the other hand do think there is a elite Jewish conspiracy. The mere mention of The Protocols of The Elders of Zion evoke laughter until people actually read it, and their politically correct minds get blown. If people deny its accuracy even after reading it, they are either in denial or are pussies who are afraid to hurt the precious Jews' feelings. George Orwell's 1984 has got nothin on the Protocols. The Protocols are eerily correct. Past and current events read straight out of that Machiavellian outline.

I'd say holoca$h survivors and Israel propaganda have made it clear that yes good amount of them are liars. Their dishonesty is not inherent. It has seemed to develop from all the brainwashing they've received from a young age. Gotta keep that victim complex alive.

[Ry]

what is the point behind this Ry? do you think Jewish people are inherently dishonest or something?

Now why would you say that? I think that THAT lady is dishonest. In fact I know she is. And I think the Holocaust has become something to market for zionism. I think religion is dishonest. I think nothing about Jewish people, that's as stupid as saying the people who wear white socks people. There is nothing in common between each individual that goes beyond their own minds. There are no "sets" of people who "inherently" must think a certain way. Now why would someone just from the individual to the collective? Collectivism is prejudice. In fact you can't have prejudice without it.

[Drew J]

If anyone actually watches key sections of one third of the holocaust, you find that a lot of the lies started at Buchenwald after the war where they made the Germans come and see what the nazis did, which included shrunken heads, lampshades and jewish soap bars, that was made up by American military intelligence men who were Gentile. But a lot of Jews were worked to death and died of disease and starvation. And bodies were burned in crematoria ovens to kill lice to prevent spread of typhus. And I'm sure a lot of Nazis just took those dead bodies away and they were never seen again. So it's no wonder Jews would think their releatives were taken away and secretly murdered.

The case of mel Mermelstein.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p25_Okeefe.html

Another liar about gas chambers who just wanted to shut the IHr up when physical attacks and molotov cocktails weren't enough. Eventually, the ADL got to Mark Weber and he was caught conspiring to sell personal information of clients and mailings lists to the ADL. The author of the above article, Ted O Keefe, also wrote an article on the internet, proving that. For the sad backstory of the decline of the IHR, which even Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zundel criticized, go here.

[Whirled Peas]

Oh jeez another one. Just stop with this "save a Jew" mentality folks.

I'd say holoca$h survivors and Israel propaganda have made it clear that yes good amount of them are liars. Their dishonesty is not inherent. It has seemed to develop from all the brainwashing they've received from a young age. Gotta keep that victim complex alive.

I completely agree.

They're STILL teaching bullshit in the schools here. My friends 13 year old told me the other day about how THEY " killed 6000 jews and isn't it horrible".
She is only 13 and she seems to be growing a good brain so I set her straight on a few things.
But THIS is part of the problem in our world.

ooooooh take pity on us look at what they did to us ooooooooo wahhhhhhhhhh but close your eyes to the shit we're doing now !

(and of course I didn't really mean 6 thousand )

[PlutoCharon]

I think the evidence of Zionist infiltration and influence in the US along with the blatant lies, misinformation, and the atrocities of Israel all speak volumes by themselves without even mentioning the holocaust. It's important to to get the message out there and convince more people to 'wake up' in my opinion, but the holocaust is pretty sensitive and untouchable stuff. If you can get somebody to analyze the proof about Zionism and agree there is an issue then you can slowly ease the holocaust 'facts' that don't add up without the crazy looks. Maybe you'll still get crazy looks, I dunno to be honest I've pretty much kept it to myself except for the occasional anonymous internet discussion. I remember the lamp shade thing from grade school and the teacher yelling at a few kids who laughed about it. But it is laughable because it sounds ridiculous that anybody would want a grotesque thing cept for maybe HR Giger or Marilyn Manson.

I don't remember who it was but somebody challenged a scholarly article done on the holocaust hunting down the out-of-print sources which were located overseas (if my memory serves). Turns out the information sited was not even in the sources. Most 'scholarly' articles on the subject are what they call incestuous because they all come from the same (probably erroneous) sources. Auschwitz lowered the death toll stated on it's sign after the end of the Soviet Union from 4 million to 1.5 million (That's total deaths too, not just from Jews). Considering the original number comes from the same trial that produced the 6 million number (which some claim evolved from WWI-era propaganda) then why wasn't the 6 million number adjusted? Try to mention that and you'll be referred to dozens of biased 'scholarly' studies. Then there are the laws that prevent some European countries from even talking about it which I don't know if that's a unique thing or not (I think their may be some laws about communist era crimes too but I don't remember off the top of my head). The sad thing is you just can't question it without dirty looks and arguments, being labeled a 'denier' even though you aren't denying that it happened, being labeled antisemitic, etc. If you don't live in a country where they'll throw you in jail for doing so, you'll have your credentials stripped and your career in ruins. That to me is just proof this is another tool which Zionists use to be immune from criticism. They don't want us ever to forget so a museum is built in almost every US state and extensive study is done in grade school on the subject. The holocaust is an undeniable real event, but those of us who dispute it because the facts don't add up should be allowed to do so. There is evidence the gas chamber thing was a fabrication along with burning bodies on open grills. It's hard enough to cook a steak to ashes, but a human body? 6 million?

Anyways, I'm just offended by the whole Jewish suffering claim because Jews are not the only people in history who have suffered. Even taking this event as face value there are more examples of human suffering throughout history (The European slaughter of the Americas comes to mind). Biblical text aside, I really have a hard time believing in Jewish suffering based on actual science/history and again think it's a Zionist immunity tool. If Israel was given to them by the gods in pre-antiquity and any of the biblical stories happen to be true I would imagine that by now (given low population numbers back then) the bloodlines would be homogenized into the entire modern population on the planet. In other words, we're all 'entitled' to it. Ha! Not trying to be antisemitic but there comes a time when you enter territory like the above where it is unavoidable (which is wrong in itself) Sorry for tl;dr

[Ry]

Oh jeez another one. Just stop with this "save a Jew" mentality folks. I don't like Ryan, but he's made it clear enough many times he does not believe in any Jewish conspiracy. He'll be the first to mock people who expose disproportionate elite Jewish crimes and label them "kooks". He always blames America, Great Britain, MIC but never elite Jews (at best he'll say Zionists or Israel). Basically he's no Proteanview.

I do not blame American Britain and the MIC. Have you been brain dead? My core document is called Iraq 911 PNAC all Roads lead to ISRAEL. I target Zionist no matter what their ethnic background is. I slam on Jewish people all the time, but for what they did not for being Jewish. I made a couple huge films slamming Perle Wolfowitz Feith Frumm Libby Kushner Wurmser Zelkowli etc etc The difference isI don't ignorantly equate them as being "the jews" They are Jews jews are not them. I have no problem pointing out corruption no matter who does it and I have made a film debunking the holocaust and many destroying Israel.

You collectivist can tell the difference between a religious ideology with national backing, and a racial group. There are a disproportionate number of black people in jail too, you won:t see me going around saying it must be a genetic disposition. The reason so many Jewish people are in positions of power in banking and the press is because they are zionist and recieve backing from a STATE to do it. Same as racist whites rose to the top uinder Nazi regiems. They were a minority of germans but they got 100% of the government anyway because that is who controlled the government and what was beneficial for the financials in charge. American politicians support zionism just like they support war. It over laps with the MIC. Many Jewish peopel are in the MIC as well. but it doesn:t make it a Jewish movement. It is a Zionist movement. Just like the Klan is not white people in general even if 100% of it is white, it:s an ideology not a race.