Occupy Wall Street

[Ry]

this occupy x bullshit is a fucking joke. none of these idiots are anti-war or pro-civil liberties or pro-free market. these people are socialist/hippy morons.

same as what happened to the tea party as soon as something gets air time the tards come flocking in. I think we can all see what's wrong with America. The collective stupid that have hijacked the tea party and occupy wallstreet movements are the best and most blatent examples of party loyalist and idiocy, its the extremist of both sides and both unable to seem imperialism unless its by the other team.

[Raoul]

I hope Michael Moore has a heart attack, the grandstanding cunt. Fuck that guy.

Why not tell us what you really think

Can I ask why you say that about him?

i have to agree he is a dic

he made such an in-depth film about Bush and the Bin ladens connection and that it was all about oil. he proved that his research and info sourcing skills are excellent so he has absolutely no excuse for not exposing PNAC and the Israeli cabal. There is no way he is unaware of what really happened.

[georgesmiley]

just listened to a podcast with mark glenn - mark dankoff and john friend

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/ its the oct 11th one

where they discuss the ows events

they are concerned that the soros and other elements are trying to get hold of this movement

dankoff was interviewed on press tv along with two others

his article on the exchange here:

http://mark1marti2.wordpress.com/2011/1 ... bra-sweet/

loads of links including the interview on press tv

john friend who blogs here

[urlhttp://mrfriendsblog.blogspot.com/][/url]

he calls into riveros show regularly

he went to occupy san diego and spoke - he got cheers until he mentioned that israel did 911 and then was booed

any way - its an interesting podcast

edit

i watched the adam kokesh video about the filming thing - the crowd reminded be of the borg whats with the repetition of whats being said? Seems pretty collectivist bs to me.

[dicktater]

OWS Protester Proclaims ‘The Jews Control Wall St.’ In Zuccotti Park Rant
October 12, 2011 11:00 PM
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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — “Blame the Jews.”

That’s the message one Wall Street protester was trying to spread in Lower Manhattan to anyone that would listen.

A new video posted to YouTube shows the protester loudly and aggressively proclaiming “the Jews control Wall Street.”

In the nearly 6-minute video, the man is seen standing in Zuccotti Park ranting against Israel and Jews while holding a sign reading “Hitler’s Bankers – Wall St.”

The protestor, who would not give his name to those gathered around him, is also seen arguing with members of the public who took offense to his choice of words.

A number of others also ask the protester if Fox News had paid him to stand and display his sign to which he responded: “[expletive] Fox News, that’s [expletive]. [Expletive] Jew made that up.”


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[Rio]

just listened to a podcast with mark glenn - mark dankoff and john friend

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/ its the oct 11th one where they discuss the ows events they are concerned that the soros and other elements are trying to get hold of this movement.

I had already pretty much made up my mind on Occupy Wall Street before I even heard this, but listening to this podcast has only solidified my views.

I'm not saying that there is nothing helpful that can come from the protests, but no real change can be accomplished if those who try to identify our common enemies are shunned like this Friend guy was.

[dicktater]

It's now turning into the ManBearPig show. Gore steps in to help clear the murky message of the movement. With Gore saying that The New York Times “hit the nail on the head,” and his calling it a “true grassroots movement,” you know... it's not.

Al Gore backs Occupy Wall Street protests
By Andrew Restuccia - 10/13/11 10:25 AM ET
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Former Vice President Al Gore threw his support behind the Occupy Wall Street protests Wednesday night, arguing that the country’s elected officials have failed the public on everything “from the economy to the climate crisis.”

Gore, a vocal advocate of policies to address climate change, called the protests — which have spread around the country — a “true grassroots movement.”

“From the economy to the climate crisis, our leaders have pursued solutions that are not solving our problems; instead they propose policies that accomplish little,” Gore wrote on his blog Wednesday night.

“With democracy in crisis, a true grassroots movement pointing out the flaws in our system is the first step in the right direction. Count me among those supporting and cheering on the Occupy Wall Street movement.”

Gore said a Sunday editorial in The New York Times “hit the nail on the head,” noting that he has read about the protests “with both interest and admiration.”

“The message — and the solutions — should be obvious to anyone who has been paying attention since the economy went into a recession that continues to sock the middle class while the rich have recovered and prospered,” the Times editorial said. “The problem is that no one in Washington has been listening.”

The editorial responded in part to criticism that the message of the protests is unclear.

[Whirled Peas]

just listened to a podcast with mark glenn - mark dankoff and john friend

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/ its the oct 11th one where they discuss the ows events they are concerned that the soros and other elements are trying to get hold of this movement.

I had already pretty much made up my mind on Occupy Wall Street before I even heard this, but listening to this podcast has only solidified my views.

I'm not saying that there is nothing helpful that can come from the protests, but no real change can be accomplished if those who try to identify our common enemies are shunned like this Friend guy was.

I'm listening to this now.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/ ... YN20111013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Who's behind the Wall Street protests?

Is George Soros (adbusters) behind this movement?

If so ... why?

On the radio show above they liken the OWS movement to recess in school. Everyone needs to stand up and take a break so they can get back to work (ie - Wall street can get back to making money hand over fist)

[Whirled Peas]

WTF?

Al Gore and George Soros?

Its a diversion. Its a media diversion.

Or it's dis-information.

[dicktater]

11 Reasons Why Occupy Wall Street Protesters Are Hypocrites If They Do Not Call For Barack Obama To Resign

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If the Occupy Wall Street protesters truly believed in the things that they are proclaiming, then they would be calling for the immediate resignation of Barack Obama and his entire cabinet. The truth is that the Obama administration is responsible for most of the things that Occupy Wall Street is supposedly complaining about. If the Occupy Wall Street protesters were intellectually honest, we would see a flood of anti-Obama signs during these demonstrations. But instead we have barely heard a peep of criticism for Obama. In fact, the vast majority of the protesters seem very excited about sending Obama back to the White House in 2012. As will be clearly demonstrated in the rest of this article, this makes the Occupy Wall Street protesters tremendous hypocrites. If Occupy Wall Street wants to have any credibility whatsoever, it needs to call for Barack Obama to resign. Either Occupy Wall Street protesters will call for Barack Obama to be held accountable for his actions, or they are just a bunch of sheep. They cannot preach to us about how principled they are and yet turn a blind eye to everything that Barack Obama has been doing for the past 3 years.

Below I am going to analyze many of the demands that Occupy Wall Street protesters have been making. A lot of them have been directly taken from the formal list of complaints posted on the "official" organizing website of Occupy Wall Street.

As you will see, there are a whole lot of reasons why there "protesters" should be very angry with Barack Obama.

But we all know that nearly all of them will show up to vote for Obama once again in 2012.

Just like so many "true conservatives" apologized for George W. Bush for all those years, now we are seeing those on the left apologize for Barack Obama.

It is truly sickening.

Posted below are 11 reasons why Occupy Wall Street protesters are hypocrites if they do not call for Barack Obama to resign immediately....

#1 Occupy Wall Street says that they are angry that the big Wall Street banks "have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give executives exorbitant bonuses."

Well, if Barack Obama and John McCain had not aggressively pushed for the Wall Street bailouts back in 2008, they never would have happened. After Obama took office, he rammed through even more bailouts. The reality is that you could easily call Barack Obama "the king of the Wall Street bailouts".

#2 Occupy Wall Street says that they are angry that the big Wall Street banks "have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them."

Yet they ignore the fact that 3 of the top 7 donors to Obama's campaign in 2008 were the very Wall Street banks that the Occupy Wall Street movement is protesting.

Once again, Barack Obama will be taking in huge amounts of money from the wealthy and from big Wall Street banks for his run in 2012.

So why aren't they complaining about that?

#3 One of the big themes of the Occupy Wall Street protests is the fact that Wall Street has way too much influence and power over the federal government.

Well, the Obama administration is absolutely packed with ex-executives of giant corporations and big Wall Street banks. Earlier this year, Michael Brenner wrote the following about the current composition of the Obama administration....

Wall Street's takeover of the Obama administration is now complete. The mega-banks and their corporate allies control every economic policy position of consequence. Mr. Obama has moved rapidly since the November debacle to install business people where it counts most. Mr.William Daley from JP Morgan Chase as White House Chief of Staff. Mr. Gene Sperling from the Goldman Sachs payroll to be director of the National Economic Council. Eileen Rominger from Goldman Sachs named director of the SEC's Investment Management division. Even the National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon, was executive vice president for law and policy at the disgraced Fannie Mae after serving as a corporate lobbyist with O'Melveny & Roberts. The keystone of the business friendly team was put in place on Friday. General Electric Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt will serve as chair of the president's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

#4 Occupy Wall Street says that it is deeply concerned about the rampant corruption in our financial system.

The Federal Reserve is the very heart and soul of our financial system, and yet there has been very little real criticism of the Fed by Occupy Wall Street protesters.

If Occupy Wall Street truly wanted to do something about our financial system they would be calling for the Federal Reserve to be shut down.

But their hero, Barack Obama, actually nominated Ben Bernanke for a second term as Federal Reserve Chairman and Obama continues to support him 100 percent even after a horrible track record of failures that is legendary.

#5 Occupy Wall Street says that it is angry that big corporations "have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay."

This issue alone should be enough for Occupy Wall Street to call for Barack Obama to resign.

The Obama administration has pushed very hard for new "free trade" agreements with Panama, South Korea and Colombia and the Obama administration is currently making the Trans-Pacific Partnership ("the NAFTA of the Pacific") a very high priority.

The Obama administration has been very aggressively trying to expand the "free trade" policies that are costing us millions of jobs.

In fact, members of the Obama administration run around and openly talk about how there are things that "we don't want to make in America".

For example, the following is what U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk recently told Tim Robertson of the Huffington Post about the Obama administration's attitude toward keeping manufacturing jobs in America....

Let's increase our competitiveness... the reality is about half of our imports, our trade deficit is because of how much oil [we import], so you take that out of the equation, you look at what percentage of it are things that frankly, we don't want to make in America, you know, cheaper products, low-skill jobs that frankly college kids that are graduating from, you know, UC Cal and Hastings [don't want], but what we do want is to capture those next generation jobs and build on our investments in our young people, our education infrastructure.

Unions should be screaming bloody murder about this.

But instead they are going to line up behind Barack Obama once again in 2012 like good little sheeple.

#6 Occupy Wall Street says that the big health insurance companies "have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance."

Well, as I have written about previously, the health insurance companies helped to write huge portions of Obamacare. Instead of reducing the power of health insurance companies, Obamacare actually gives them more power and will actually increase their profits. The sad truth is that large portions of Obamacare are virtually identical to a bill that was written by the health insurance trade association in 2009. Under Obamacare, our health care costs will go up even faster and the quality of our health care will continue to go down.

#7 Occupy Wall Street says that they are angry because the big banks "have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage."

Occupy Wall Street is correct about this.

So where has Barack Obama been on this issue? The reality is that the Obama administration has done very little about the horrific foreclosure abuses that have been going on.

#8 Occupy Wall Street is upset that "our privacy" has been sold "as a commodity."

Well, why aren't Occupy Wall Street protesters calling out Barack Obama for his horrific track record on civil liberties.

The national security apparatus that George W. Bush set up has been greatly expanded by Barack Obama.

It was the Obama administration that decided that it was necessary for TSA thugs to feel our private parts before we board our flights and it was the Obama administration that decided that TSA "VIPR teams" should run around the country conducting approximately 8,000 "unannounced security screenings" a year at subway stations, bus terminals, ports and highway rest stops.

So where is the outrage?

The truth is that under the Obama administration the United States is becoming more like a totalitarian police state every single day.

Once again, this issue alone should be enough for Occupy Wall Street to demand that Barack Obama should resign.

For much more on how America is turning into a "Big Brother" police state under Obama, please see these articles....

*12 Signs That Americans Who Love Liberty And Freedom Should Watch Their Backs

*10 Years After 9/11, Is America A Better Place?

*Big Brother 2.0: 10 New Ways That The Government Will Be Spying On You And Controlling Your Behavior

*32 Signs That The Entire World Is Being Transformed Into A Futuristic Big Brother Prison Grid

#9 Occupy Wall Street is angry that the United States has "perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad."

Oh really?

Under Barack Obama, the U.S. military has been used as the "police of the world" even more than it was under George W. Bush.

Under Obama, the war in Afghanistan was greatly expanded and the U.S. military began bombing the living daylights out of Libya. In addition, under Obama the U.S. military has been conducting air strikes in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

Today, there is a U.S. military base in over half of the countries on the planet and U.S. military spending is more than 7 times larger than the military spending of any other nation on earth.

So if "the left" was angry at George W. Bush for what he did, then why aren't they filled with rage at Barack Obama for his policies?

#10 Occupy Wall Street is angry that the U.S. has "participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas."

Well, Barack Obama did not shut down Guantanamo Bay as he promised to do.

So where is the accountability?

Under George W. Bush, millions of "evangelical Christians" were cheering for torture.

Today, millions of "liberals" are cheering while the Obama administration conducts "enhanced interrogations" of prisoners and performs "extraordinary renditions" in foreign countries.

If liberals want to complain about "torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas", it isn't the Republicans they should be angry at.

Barack Obama is running our foreign policy, and he should be held accountable for what is going on.

#11 Occupy Wall Street is angry because the wealthy are not paying their "fair share" of taxes.

Well, it is undeniable that many big corporations (such as Obama's good friends over at GE) quite often get away with paying no taxes at all.

But Barack Obama and the Democrats controlled the White House and all of Congress for two whole years.

So why didn't they "fix" the tax code while they had the chance?

Could it be that they actually like the current system?

The truth is that our current tax system is so flawed, so complex and so full of holes that it needs to be thrown out entirely.

Many big corporations get away with bloody murder under the current tax system, yet nearly all establishment Democrats and nearly all establishment Republicans want to keep the current system of taxation.

In a previous article, I noted some of the big corporations that make a ton of money and yet have paid less than zero in taxes in recent years....

What U.S. corporations are able to get away with is absolutely amazing.

The following figures come directly out of a report by Citizens for Tax Justice. These are combined figures for the tax years 2008, 2009 and 2010.

During those three years, all of the corporations below made a lot of money. Yet all of them paid net taxes that were below zero for those three years combined.

How is that possible? Well, it turns out that instead of paying in taxes to the federal government, they were actually getting money back.

So for these corporations, their rate of taxation was actually below zero.

If you have not seen these before, you are going to have a hard time believing some of these statistics.....

*Honeywell*

Profits: $4.9 billion

Taxes: -$34 million

*Fed Ex*

Profits: $3 billion

Taxes: -$23 million

*Wells Fargo*

Profits: $49.37 billion

Taxes: -$681 million

*Boeing*

Profits: $9.7 billion

Taxes: -$178 million

*Verizon*

Profits: $32.5 billion

Taxes: -$951 million

*Dupont*

Profits: $2.1 billion

Taxes -$72 million

*American Electric Power*

Profits: $5.89 billion

Taxes -$545 million

*General Electric*

Profits: $7.7 billion

Taxes: -$4.7 billion

Are you starting to get the picture?

The amazing thing is that GE can get away with all this and still ship thousands upon thousands of good American jobs out of the country.

There is no way that our current tax code can be fixed with a few "tweaks" here and there. Our current tax code is an abomination that should be immediately repealed and flushed down the toilet.

But the Democrats and most Republicans seem to want to keep it around. They like to play their little social engineering games with the tax code, and the current tax code enables their wealthy donors to do quite nicely.

Occupy Wall Street is right to argue that our tax code is fundamentally unjust, and the number one person that they need to point the finger at is Barack Obama.

So can any "liberal" out there actually defend Barack Obama after reading all of this?

Can anyone out there put forth an intellectual argument for why Occupy Wall Street protesters should be supporting Obama?

The truth is that most of the Occupy Wall Street protesters are intellectual hypocrites.

Most of them are so scared that a Republican might win in 2012 that they won't say anything bad about Obama.

It is the same trap that many Republicans fell into with George W. Bush.

Look, George W. Bush was a nightmare for this country.

Barack Obama is even worse.

If we are not going to be intellectually honest with ourselves, then we might as well tattoo the word "sheeple" on to our foreheads.

If Occupy Wall Street really believes the stuff that they are saying, then they need to call for Barack Obama to resign.

Does anyone disagree?

[dicktater]

Bloomberg Caves

NYC official: Protest cleanup is being postponed
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NEW YORK (AP) - The cleanup of a plaza in lower Manhattan where protesters have been camped out for a month was postponed early Friday, sending cheers up from a crowd that had feared the effort was merely a pretext to evict them.

Deputy Mayor Cas Holloway said the owners of the private park, Brookfield Office Properties, had put off the cleaning. Supporters of the protesters had started streaming into the park in the morning darkness before the planned cleaning, forming a crowd of several hundred chanting people.