Occupy Wall Street

[Phys]

Who was he proctecting "us" from in Iraq?

[Apricot]

@ Phys, agreed. At least the first part of his message was good and needed to be said, but yeah..

[Ed]

actually just cause he was in Iraq doesn't mean that he liked it or that he really wanted those cops to go fight in Iraq. We don't really know. I think he was mainly saying what he said to make them shut up. Anyway the main premise was don't start beating unarmed civilians who aren't doing anything.

[Phys]

don't start beating unarmed civilians who aren't doing anything.

Exactly!

[Ry]

Wow, Ry said that all it takes is one tough guy and the cops have a whole different attitude. Here's your proof!

I told you that! If we had more MEN and less of these pathetic hippies these pussies that make me wish the cops had a fire hose, then the movement would be going somewhere and the police beatings would end. Instead we got the ghandi head losers playing drums and not even knowing what they are talking about. We got these quasi-commie or full on commie entitlment leeches asking for MORE government.

Let's see, you're mad about the merger of corporation and state, so your solution is communism the ultimate merger of corporation and state. You think making the government and corporations one thing is going to cause less corruption?! HA ha ha

As for the Nazis pllllease they have no power there are less than a couple hundred of these dumb asses in the whole country. They just have a loud voice because of the power of the symbols of the actual Nazis. A bunch of attention whores trying to hijack a movement. OWS are by and large stupid, but at least they're not racist. These national socailist are worse than the socialist. What do they want to do make a state like Israel with special roads and schools for the Chosen race, while everyone else gets segragated and is subject to home demolition? No thanks.

People be real men and women dont get drug down into hyper passivism. It's not like the only alrternative is throwing molotovs, but gad damn stand up for yourselves and eachother dont be so meek. They brainwash you to be meek and praise the passive like demi-gods. Let me tell you something MLK didn't win the fight, the need for a 13% in demographics votes did, and Ghandi didn't free India, WWII did.

We had a guy with balls stand down 30 cops. Look at their faces they are afraid and have no idea what to do. Now imagine if we had a man with balls and brains because im sorry this guy bless his heart is lacking in the brains if he thinks he was protecting 'us' from 'Iraq'. Someone strong and articulate needs to be there. The meek would follow them. Someone like me needs to go down there. Know what you are talking about and be ready to snap a cops spine if they act up within your feild of vision.

Where are all the men in this country? They've ben feminized.
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we need a super hero. Or at least someone with the same values and courage.
less jesus more superman.

[dicktater]

Reason's lack of reason:

Reason Guilty of Anti-ANTI-Semitism: Sub Teacher Fired
October 18, 2011
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Teacher who allegedly made anti-Semitic remarks fired
October 18, 2011

Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street - LA
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Los Angeles schools Supt. John Deasy condemned the alleged anti-Semitic remarks by a district employee taking part in the Occupy Los Angeles protest and said she would no longer work for the school system.

In a video that gained traction in the conservative blogosphere, Patricia McAllister, a substitute teacher for L.A. Unified, said that Jews run the nation's banking infrastructure and should be forced from the U.S.

"I think that the Zionist Jews who are running these big banks and our Federal Reserve, which is not run by the federal government -- they need to be run out of this country," McAllister said in the video by Reason.tv, a Libertarian-leaning news organization. She said in the video that she was an employee of L.A. Unified, although she was representing herself at the protest.

Deasy, in a statement released Tuesday, acknowledged that McAllister was offering her "private opinions" and said the district recognizes "the law is very protective of the freedom of speech rights of public employees when they are speaking as private citizens during non-working time."

However, Deasy said McAllister, as a day-to-day substitute teacher, was an at-will employee, and as of Tuesday she was no longer employed by the district.

Deasy said that district officials would "never stand for behavior that is disrespectful, intolerant or discriminatory."

[Phys]

I told you the dems would hijack this movement.

@ Phys, agreed. At least the first part of his message was good and needed to be said, but yeah..

Agreed! The first part is a good message. The protesters dont need to be no neck meat heads. They just need to be more agressive. This guy is slightly retarded.

[Dissent]

Reason's lack of reason:

Reason Guilty of Anti-ANTI-Semitism: Sub Teacher Fired
October 18, 2011
http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/18/reaso ... i-anti-sem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Teacher who allegedly made anti-Semitic remarks fired
October 18, 2011

Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street - LA
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... +lanowblog+(L.A.+Now" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjm4LxFa1c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Los Angeles schools Supt. John Deasy condemned the alleged anti-Semitic remarks by a district employee taking part in the Occupy Los Angeles protest and said she would no longer work for the school system.

In a video that gained traction in the conservative blogosphere, Patricia McAllister, a substitute teacher for L.A. Unified, said that Jews run the nation's banking infrastructure and should be forced from the U.S.

"I think that the Zionist Jews who are running these big banks and our Federal Reserve, which is not run by the federal government -- they need to be run out of this country," McAllister said in the video by Reason.tv, a Libertarian-leaning news organization. She said in the video that she was an employee of L.A. Unified, although she was representing herself at the protest.

Deasy, in a statement released Tuesday, acknowledged that McAllister was offering her "private opinions" and said the district recognizes "the law is very protective of the freedom of speech rights of public employees when they are speaking as private citizens during non-working time."

However, Deasy said McAllister, as a day-to-day substitute teacher, was an at-will employee, and as of Tuesday she was no longer employed by the district.

Deasy said that district officials would "never stand for behavior that is disrespectful, intolerant or discriminatory."

i like how this video is getting media attention. Well apparently now LAUSD teachers are hitting the streets and joining OCCUPYLA. I saw this on ch11 and they kept looping the part where she said zionist jews.

not surprised but...speaking the truth = antisemitic.

[blackbird]

Dissent writes:

i like how this video is getting media attention. Well apparently now LAUSD teachers are hitting the streets and joining OCCUPYLA. I saw this on ch11 and they kept looping the part where she said zionist jews.

not surprised but...speaking the truth = antisemitic.

I can relate to the "Speaking the Truth = Anti-semitic" . . . That is what cost me MY career in the IT/TelCo world when I pointed the finger at Israel's role in 9-11 . . .

. . . and went on record that not only was the NSA breaking the law with their warrantless wiretapping, but that the CALEA (Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act) requirements were compromising our Republic's entire communications infrastructure and that was being exploited by Israel.

Like this school teacher, I was "relieved of duty" . . . and blacklisted . .. for doing my job and fulfilling my oath to "Protect and Defend the U.S. Constitution from ALL enemies both FOREIGN and DOMESTIC."

Speaking of Domestic Enemies of the U.S. Constitution . . . have you seen this latest from Abe "You're An Anti-Semite If We Hate You" Foxman of the ADL? . . .

ADL Calls On 'Occupy Wall Street' Organizers To Condemn Anti-Semitic Remarks Made At Rallies

New York, NY, October 17, 2011 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today called on organizers, participants and supporters of the worldwide "Occupy Wall Street" movement to condemn anti-Semitic signs and comments that have appeared at some of the protest rallies across the country and around the world.

Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement:

We are seeing some individuals holding anti-Semitic signs at the "Occupy Wall Street" rallies, and some videos posted on YouTube from the rallies have shown individuals expressing classic anti-Semitic beliefs such as "Jews control the banks" and "Jews control Wall Street." While we believe that these expressions are not representative of the larger views of the OWS movement, it is still critical for organizers, participants and supporters of these rallies to condemn such bigoted statements clearly and forcefully.

There is no evidence that these anti-Semitic conspiracy theories are representative of the larger movement or that they are gaining traction with other participants. However, history demonstrates time and again how economic downturns can embolden anti-Semites to spread malicious conspiracy theories and promote stereotypes about Jews and money. As a consequence, these statements must not be left unchallenged.

The League continues to monitor the tenor and messages at the demonstrations to ensure that they do not get hijacked by extremists or anti-Semitic elements.

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"Big Kosher Is Watching YOU, Kid" . . .

peace.

[georgesmiley]

NOOOOOO!

The president looks likely to improve his standing with the protesters in 2012. The survey found 48% would vote for his re-election, even though a slim 51% majority of the protesters disapprove of his job performance.

why not 90% he deserves the support after all

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/10 ... protester/

To judge by its most famous slogan, Occupy Wall Street sees itself as a movement made up of those in the bottom 99% of the income distribution. But what are the actual demographics of the committed protesters inside New York’s Zuccotti Park, the movement’s birthplace and most visible manifestation?

Douglas Schoen, a veteran Democratic Party pollster who has also worked for Mayor Michael Bloomberg, sent a researcher from his polling firm down to Zuccotti Park last week to conduct what appears to be the very first professional survey of the protesters in New York. The face-to-face interviews with 198 people informed an essay by Schoen in The Journal’s opinion pages.

Putting aside Schoen’s analysis — the subhead on his piece pegs the protesters as “leftists out of step with most American voters,” if you’re curious — let’s focus instead on the raw data, which he was kind enough to publish on his personal website. The findings are quite surprising.

The protesters as a group are young, but Zuccotti Park is not nearly the youth-only movement depicted in the media. While 49% of protesters are under 30, more than 28% are 40 or older. Only one-third of the crowd considers themselves Democrats — nearly the same portion who say they don’t identify with any party. (Zero respondents labeled themselves Republican.)

Schoen finds reason to be skeptical of the protesters’ professed motivation: the inequities of the U.S. economic system. “The vast majority of demonstrators are actually employed, and the proportion of protesters unemployed (15%) is within single digits of the national unemployment rate (9.1%),” he writes in his essay. But those numbers might not be the best way to assess the economic health of the protest group.

Schoen’s survey found that, in addition to the 15% of protesters who are jobless, another 18% consider themselves “part-time employed/underemployed” — for a combined total of 33% who are struggling in the labor market. That percentage is double the U.S. Labor Department’s broader measure of unemployment, which accounts for people who have stopped looking for work or who can’t find full-time jobs. As of September, this so-called “U-6″ measure rose to 16.5%, the highest rate this year.

The pollster has a curious reading of his data when describing Occupy Wall Street’s previous support for President Barack Obama. “An overwhelming majority of demonstrators supported Barack Obama in 2008,” Schoen writes.

But according to the survey data, just 56% of protesters voted in 2008, and of those 74% voted for Obama. Crunching the numbers, it would appear that only 42% of the Zuccotti Park crowd has ever cast a presidential ballot for Obama.

The president looks likely to improve his standing with the protesters in 2012. The survey found 48% would vote for his re-election, even though a slim 51% majority of the protesters disapprove of his job performance.

Finally, the poll sheds some light on the protesters’ underlying policy agenda. The polling falls short of consensus, but some clear themes emerge.

When asked whether the U.S. should increase taxes on the wealthiest Americans, more than three-fourths of the protesters said yes. More taxes on everyone? A smaller majority, 58%, said no.

And then there’s this interesting open-ended question from the poll: What would you like to see the Occupy Wall Street movement achieve? Here are the responses (emphasis added):

35% Influence the Democratic Party the way the Tea Party has influenced the GOP
4% Radical redistribution of wealth
5% Overhaul of tax system: replace income tax with flat tax
7% Direct Democracy
9% Engage & mobilize Progressives
9% Promote a national conversation
11% Break the two-party duopoly
4% Dissolution of our representative democracy/capitalist system
4% Single payer health care
4% Pull out of Afghanistan immediately
8% Not sure
The two answers in bold seem sufficiently similar as to constitute a single answer — energizing populism on the left — with 44% support.

So the survey tells us that the Zuccotti Park protesters are underemployed at twice the national rate, lukewarm to warm on Obama and broadly in favor of taxing the wealthy and encouraging a Tea Party-style populism on the left.