How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by Whirled Peas » Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:01 pm

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Gallup: Obama's approval rating hits another record low

President Obama’s average approval rating sank to a new low of 41% in the 11th financial quarter of his term, according to a new analysis of Gallup’s daily tracking poll.

That number is down six percentage points from Obama’s 10th quarter average, and is the lowest 11th quarter average posted by a sitting president since Jimmy Carter, who lost his reelection bid in 1980. (Carter’s approval average that quarter was 31%.)

Obama’s average approval rating over his entire term is now 50%.


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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by Ry » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:25 pm

Maybe Bill CLinton should call Obama up on the phone and scream ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID
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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by dicktater » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:50 pm

Ry wrote:Maybe Bill CLinton should call Obama up on the phone and scream ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID
ITS THE DERIVATIVES STUPID!
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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by Ry » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:34 am

+51,000 - 19,000 does not equal troops are home it is the same as just saying + 36,000 but don't you just love Obama math. Don't forget X amount of mercenaries too.
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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by dicktater » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:44 am

Ry wrote:+51,000 - 19,000 does not equal troops are home it is the same as just saying + 36,000 but don't you just love Obama math. Don't forget X amount of mercenaries too.
Isn't that what they call "fuzzy math"? Phys will know. She's the math girl.
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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by Ry » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:41 pm

No funny math is what obama and the republican shills running for office do when they claim to be cutting spending when in reality its a draw back on FUTURE spending which is built on top of what is already being spent, that cuts nothing.

Its like saying I spend $100 a month but in the future I plan to spend $250 but ill cut that to $200. That's not a $50 cut. It is a $100 dollar increase. But under Obama math much like adding more troops than you are bringing home and calling it a withdraw, it all works out. That's Obama math same as Bush's fuzzy math.

Don't forget 100k in Afghanistan plus NATO plus mercenaries. It's 12 million dollars an hour. What if all that money had been spent at home? This money does not go to troops it goes to weapons a billion each for a stealth bomber for example. And it goes to administrators giving themselves 6 figure salaries to basically be fuck ups.
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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by Phys » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:17 pm

What Obama is doing is NOT funny!

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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by bruno718 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:00 pm

Ry wrote:+51,000 - 19,000 does not equal troops are home it is the same as just saying + 36,000 but don't you just love Obama math. Don't forget X amount of mercenaries too.
+51,000 - 19,000 does not equal troops are home it is the same as just saying + 36,000 but don't you just love Obama math. Don't forget X amount of mercenaries too.

where are you getting these numbers ry
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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by bruno718 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:41 pm

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Re: How legit is this troop withdrawl from Iraq?

Post by bruno718 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:03 pm

"Meanwhile, lawmakers on Capitol Hill, have expressed serious concern, since private contractors make up the bulk of the 16000 non-military personnel who will be dispatched to Iraq. According to US lawmakers there is a great risk that hundreds of millions of dollars of US taxpayer money might go to waste , or simply “disappear”, since there is very little oversight or accounting as to how private contractors spend US government money in Iraq."


wow they are turning it into a slush fund that can't be criticized due to the fact that there are virtually no "military personel" there. more wealth lost. so basically 12,000 mercenaries deployed and 4000 "non combat" soldiers aka combat soldiers. but, however we would like to spin this, even if we pull out all the cards and prove and show that the deal was negotiated by the bush administration, and that obama is worse on foreign policy than his predecessor because of the sheer numbers of troops in afghanistan and the involvement in other countries, at least on the issue of iraq, i have to say this is an improvement over bush. =/ this does not mean that the occupation has ended though. what a shame that most people believe it is over.
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