The Myspace Machine

Post by **iampalestine13** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:36 pm

you can't say myspace isn't a powerful tool. Websites like this are great, but the problem is anyone here is ALREADY in the movement. It's a good place to get the movement going and all, but how about making people join it? On myspace you can reach people who aren't already involved and spread awareness, and you have to hope they care enough to move on to a website like this eventually, but you need a starting point. unfortunately not everyone is born with a political conscience

Post by **iampalestine13** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:05 pm

xXToteXx wrote:Not only do you support voting FOR a Zionist, you advertise for a Zionist website... yet claim to be Palestinian! Either you are the dumbest bitch on the face of the Earth, or you're a god damn liar. It IS one or the other.

i advertise for the only person with a shot at winning who wont TOTALLY f up palestine, and i advertise for a website that has millions of members just WAITING to be pulled into our political beliefs. its not the website im advertising, its the fresh blood and opportunity. don't call me a liar, call me a realist

Post by **iampalestine13** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:18 pm

FYI i have the same political beliefs as you, I just have a different opinion on how to approach and solve these problems

Post by Ry » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:35 pm

you can't say myspace isn't a powerful tool. Websites like this are great, but the problem is anyone here is ALREADY in the movement. It's a good place to get the movement going and all, but how about making people join it? On myspace you can reach people who aren't already involved and spread awareness, and you have to hope they care enough to move on to a website like this eventually, but you need a starting point. unfortunately not everyone is born with a political conscience

I can answer thaty fast. How many people here knew everything about the Zionists and the Libby/plame/AIPAC affairs the Oligarchs of Russia etc before they came here? People in the movement can go higher. People can drop the nonsense about the black pope and the illuminati and devil worshippers and all that bullshit. People here also want to keep up with the news no one person does that as well as a group can.

And I would guest that the majority of people hgere are X-republicans that is paleocons. Just like Mike Rivero and Alex Jones and Justin Raimondo you name a movement leader like them or not and they are not from the Left. The Left is the problem and now we have two Lefts the old Left and the Neocons. Today I just call them all Neocons.

NO you do not have the same political beliefs as anyone here and you are not a Palestinian. Your basic phiolosphy is oh people are too stupid to vote for someone good so ill take the lesser of the many evils. Guess how many people say that. Then you ghet manipulated by the media like everyone else. It is called the lemming effect. The media creates this idea of what the majority is even though it is fake, then people give up thinking it is hopeless to fight the flow and they go with it.

When Nader ran I gave out nameless questionairs based only on the issues but I removed Bush and Kerry's names. Nearly eveyone we gave them to and I mean thousands in a red state as well. Voted for Nader. Many Kerry supporters did not even know what Kerry really said and though his answers were Bush's. The only reason and I mean the ONLY reason they had not to vote for NAder was htinking that other people would not vote for him. They had absolutely NO political arguments with the policies.

What a great I dea ciontinue to vote for Zionist pawns because you thikn they can win and just ignore it if a new Thomas Jefferson comes along. YOu know they said Perrot could not win either but he was taking 20% of the vote even after dropping out of the fucking race. The hardest arm against the thrid parties (aka the anti-war party) is the Left. You see they think it takes votes from THEM when there is another non-Republican. No one votes for them they vote against Republicans you see. But it is NOT taking votes away from a Pro-War Hawk to vote for an anti-War candidate. The Left is the ones stealing votes. All these people morally and consciously want to vote anti-war but because of fear of the Republicans winning they force themselves to vote for someone they mistakingly think is a tad less pro war. You are a Sheep and a loser.

A ZIonist is a Zionist it does not MATTER if there color is Red or Blue.

Post by **iampalestine13** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:35 pm

your "rational" ideas are nothing more than fantasies and blind idealism, as i've said a million times

Post by **iampalestine13** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:41 pm

it doesn't MATTER if people agree with the freaking platforms, they won't get elected! and vegan tim and i had a chat about your imnotpalestinian crap and he knows i am, so go ahead and ask him. you are the most judgemental ridiculous fanatic lunatic i've ever met, it's sad you're on this forum. But I won't be like you and call anyone who supports a different candidate or belief than me an undercover jew or an idiot, cuz politics is based on different views and beliefs

Post by Ry » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:52 pm

it doesn't MATTER if people agree with the freaking platforms, they won't get elected! and vegan tim and i had a chat about your imnotpalestinian crap and he knows i am, so go ahead and ask him. you are the most judgemental ridiculous fanatic lunatic i've ever met, it's sad you're on this forum. But I won't be like you and call anyone who supports a different candidate or belief than me an undercover jew or an idiot, cuz politics is based on different views and beliefs

ha ha religious fanatic wow you are talking to three atheists you idiot and no one said you were an undercover jew. It is not like you have to be Jewish to support a Zionist. You only have to be stupid.
Realism you say. Ha BULLSHIT what difference does it make if you vote for a popular Zionist. That is like me saying I am voting for Bush (last election) Because he has a chance at awinning over the Pro-War Kerry. Someone then tells me that Bush is also Pro-War and I spaz out and say hey I am a realist Bush can win I will not waste my vote on some anti-war party when I can vote for my Pro-war guy instead because he is less Pro-War then the other guy. (that is actually true Kerry was more Hawkish than even Bush).

That is the definition of Insanity to vote betwen Zionists instead of against them because you think they can win according to the Zionist media.

The problem is that you do not think Obama is a Zionist but you are unwilling to try and argue that because you dont know what the fuck you are talking about so you re-hash the old shit-argument that you can only vote between the candidates that the Media is pushing and no one else.

You my friend are part of the problem. It has to start somewhere and it is starting here. We ANTI-NEOCONS are not going to vote for a ZIonist EVER end of story. This is an anti-neocons website THE anti-neocons website what the hell did you think we would say. Like we have not heard your nammy pammy speech before a thousand times.

Post by Ry » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:13 pm

So what you still didn:t adress what I said what so ever. Your beef is Idealism Vs what you think is Realism.

What does it matter when you are just going to vote for a Zionist anyway.
Realism depends on what you believe. If you refuse to vote for someone because of what the Zionist media says about who can win then that is a self fulfilling prophecy. You have a Chance to change Zionist policy by voting for an anti-Zionist. You have ZERO chance of chaning shit when you vote for a Zionist.

Your so called "realism" is as hardheaded as our "idealism" I can tell you fall into that Kennsian bullshit probably from a psych class you just took.

The diference is I hacve an actual argument as to why we should vote for who we want instead of who we think can win between people we hate. The two war parties win even when the majority of the country is anti-war because the media the propaganda ministry has told you LEMMINGS that an anti-war candidate is not electable by the sheer power that the media will not give them attention.

Lets look at other web Vs the Media things. The Media never said Iraq had no WMDs they never said 911 was an inside job. They never said anything about the AIPAC spy ring. But the web did and how many american think 911 was an inside job now like 80% How many knew they were lying about WMDs the whole time. A LOT of people knew because of the web. If you let the Propaganda ministry dictate who you will vote for then you have lost. Everytime you open your mouth with that lesser of two evils bullshit you are assiting the administration.

They try to kill things with silence and they will so long as you can only accept things as true or possible if they are on the "news".

I know you will get huffy and leave now because you have been completely schooled and your ego will not let yourself admit you're a fucking tool.

Post by **ledskof** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:45 am

iampalestine13 wrote:you're pathetic and as long as you can't deal with people having different opinions than you you'll never get anywhere in politics

As soon as you enter the "you are lesser than me" arena, you clearly stamp how much of a complete fucking clueless loser you are.

iampalestine13 wrote:good, don't address me because i'd like to stay on this board i just don't wanna deal with your intolerant crap instead of talking about real issues

The only thing I have read in this thread that could be described as intolerant on any level was Ry's claim that as anti-zionists we will never vote for a zionist. If we claimed to be anti-murderers and a convicted murderer was running for president, and we bitched you out for saying he/she was a good candidate and the only one with a chance of winning, would you say we are intolerant?

Seriously, it couldn't be any more clear that your intentions here are deceptive. If you don't like to give off that perception, consider the brainwashed line you are promoting. The reason people here are fighting the same old democrat v republican nonsense is because:
It does not work, has never worked, and is not intended to work in the way you think it does.

Post by Ry » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:20 am

what a projectionist the one who can not hadle different opinions its the bitch posing as a Palestinina who supports a Zionist.

We disagree with you supporting a Zionist just because your stupid ass think the lection is only between Obama and HIllary and you only compare Obama to Hillary. Well here in the REAL world we know the election is not Obama vs Hillary those two re on the same team and many other people are running including Republicans and Ron aul has a good chance of being that guy.